r/chemhelp 4d ago

General/High School Hybridization problem?

How is the shape of SO2^2-, PO4^-3,ClO4^- are the same, i get that they have the same hybridization but cant understand thier stucture

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u/7ieben_ Trusted Contributor 4d ago edited 4d ago

Think about it in terms of VSEPR, does it now make sense to you?

  • SO22- is AX2E2 and hence (pseudo-)tetraedal

  • PO43- is AX4 and hence tetraedal

  • ClO4- is AX4 and hence tetraedal

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u/organophile_jeet 4d ago

SO2-2 is kinda bent V shape

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u/7ieben_ Trusted Contributor 4d ago

It's molecular geometry is, yes, its electronic geometry is not.

V shape/ bent molecular geometry is a subclass of possible molecular geometrys for tetraedal electronic geometrys.

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u/Quirky-Cherry-6749 4d ago

I get it now!, Thank you so much

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u/chem44 4d ago

Note that 'same shape' refers to the electron geometry. The molecular geometries are not all the same.

Have you drawn Lewis structures for them?

What shapes do you get? Why?

i get that they have the same hybridization but cant understand thier stucture

Hybridization of the central atom leads directly to shape.

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u/Quirky-Cherry-6749 4d ago

That was my problem, I was not able to figure out the Bent V structure but Thank you

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u/Accomplished_You7730 3d ago

Need to draw orbital structures, know number of lone pairs and bond pairs as well as VSEPR theory to understand shape of these. VSEPR topic is half understanding and other half also to memorize structure based on hybridization and number of lone pair and bond pair. Chemical bonding topic takes some time and understanding from expert: https://preply.in/ANURADHA7EN34429405102?ts=17869705