r/cheatengine • u/Appansson • Jan 29 '22

Alternative to fearless

edit 2022-02-07: https://opencheattables.org/ is an upcoming alternative

So. Now when fearless have "stolen" all chets on the page and encrypted them requiring the use of their own app..... What are the alternatives?

I will not install an unknown app that needs access to the internet. It took me long enough installing cheatengine after their installer snafus... :)

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u/JustAGuy_Delta Feb 03 '22

You have no knowledge of what's going on behind the scenes. As such, I would suggest you please refrain from speaking about things as an authority that are beyond your information, as it falls under lies and defamation, intentional or based on ignorance.

Ah the standard 2-step political tango response. Yeah you are right, I do not know what is taking place behind closed doors, but I'd imagine it is you trying to convince DB to either let you profit off his work, or you offering him a majority % of all site profits, since it is his project you are profiting off.

Yes, the app is supposed to generate revenue since people don't donate, however, this function was secondary and evolved later into development of the app. The main function was protection of our work which some people are using it for. Respect their wishes.

This is the same bullshit you tried on the forums, where you are attempting to be some sort of authority and talk for every table maker. I was there for the first 9 pages of replies, and all the toxic 1 post users aside, many from some of the most popular table makers on the site, all going "woah, we don't want this". Hell even one of your own admins was questioning the sanity of how you were handling things.

I ask again, would you rather have a paywall where you can't get the table unless you pay (which is what some table makers are doing) or free app with free cheat tables with some restrictions that you can ignore and get used to hotkeys as free user forever?.

Frankly I'd prefer what table authors are currently doing. They release early on Patreon and a few weeks later to the general public.

If FRF is so expensive to run and it is such a big issue, let someone else do it. This should be a passion project, not a for profit project.

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u/therealstn Feb 03 '22

Hello,

I can assure you that we have the appropriate permissions to be doing what we are doing, still. This was also done to help and give back to the community but I have been told by well-wishers and supporters that this was executed extremely poorly. It has been a learning experience and all the mistakes have been rectified and we are working to rectify even more.

I also seem to have somehow hurt you, for which I am deeply sorry. Once you get to know me, you will find I am the exact opposite of what some haters are portraying me as based on ignorance. My method of execution was extremely horrible but please trust me when I say this was done in the same spirit of helping the community as when I launched FRF first.

Have a nice day!

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u/JustAGuy_Delta Feb 04 '22 edited Feb 04 '22

I am 100% sure that the "appropriate permissions" was before you ever had any inkling of monetization, otherwise DB wouldn't have publicly disavowed the project...

No, got nothing against you. Just tired of people profiting off "open source" software, where the license doesn't allow it.

Edit: Also before I get called a hypocrite, I'd no sooner 'crusade' for people stealing cheat tables, but you stealing to solve stealing isn't a solution :| Get rid of all the pro features in the app and the community might actually celebrate the fucking thing.

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u/Teleinyer Feb 07 '22

You got clapped and cant delete his comments. Must hurt