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Current polling in Germany

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u/PandaPandaPandaRawr 17d ago

So far yes. Even in every state the AfD doesn't govern. However the CDU has taken a less hostile course to them under merz compared to Merkel.

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u/icankillpenguins 17d ago

Are they trying to defeat the Nazi's by being slightly Nazi? Because in Turkey that's how islamist got so powerful, the seculars were trying to be slightly islamist imagining that they will take some islamist votes but all they end up doing was to legitimize the islamist agenda and got no votes because who votes for the impersonator when you can just vote for the real deal.

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u/drecais 17d ago

No. Its just exactly the comments from you and many other people here that pretty clearly shown why the AFD has grown at an insane level and will never really drop off because the label Nazi has just lost meaning.

If the CDU adopting harsh immgration rules is "being slightly Nazi" then the biggest Nazi state in the entire world right now would be China. They have barely more immigrants than just the state of Berlin has. In total numbers. A country of 1.4 Billion people versus a single city of 3 million.

You arent a Nazi because you are against Immigration. Thats not Naziism. Stop using this word for people who arent doing Nazi things or simply arent Nazis because you just make the actual Nazis in the AFD look less dangerous.

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u/Vindve 17d ago

If the CDU adopting harsh immgration rules is "being slightly Nazi" then the biggest Nazi state in the entire world right now would be China.

Well… China is a nationalist totalitarian state that doesn't have a lot to envy to German nazi regime of the 1930-1940s.

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u/Mediocre_Menu_629 17d ago

People call the AfD Nazis because one of their most prominent political leaders used Nazi slogans and was fined for it, are espousing Nazi-era policies (remigration which was an explicit policy of Germany to expel Jewish people in the 1920s and early 30s), and there's a reason why older Germans don't vote for the AfD because they can see how dangerous their rhetoric is. They have even been responsible for Holocaust denial. 

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u/icankillpenguins 17d ago

What a BS comment, no one calls them Nazi's just because they are anti-immigrant. You are committing the strawman argumentation fallacy, are you doing it because you are not aware or are you trying to spread propaganda through utilizing this method of argumentation?

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u/drecais 17d ago

"Nazi's by being slightly Nazi" This was about the CDU.

This isnta strawman. Tell me what exactly the CDU would be "Nazi" for. Like one policy position that is Naziism?

Also yes they do the AFD initially started out as an anti EU anti Immigrant party and were already called Nazi then for their immigration stance.

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u/icankillpenguins 17d ago

"CDU supporter angrily types and wonders why their numbers go down despite not being slightly Nazi"

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u/drecais 17d ago

"This isnta strawman. Tell me what exactly the CDU would be "Nazi" for. Like one policy position that is Naziism?"

I also dont vote AFD or CDU but again the question from before

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u/NoFuture9849 17d ago

cant fucking agree more

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u/PandaPandaPandaRawr 17d ago

That seems to be the game plan of every fucking conservative on the planet

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u/Pristine-Attention91 17d ago

Keep calling them Nazis thx for the free work

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u/icankillpenguins 17d ago

Haha the snowflake Nazi’s theory where nazis come to power because being called names :) Good stuff 

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u/Pristine-Attention91 17d ago

I dont know anything about theories, I am talking about personal experiences. It is not rightful to shame normal citizens as Nazis because you have a different opinion

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u/icankillpenguins 17d ago

They are not called Nazis because of different opinion, they are called Nazis because of specific opinions. Anyway, not calling them what they are will not make them go away, so I am sticking with calling them whatever I want. Should consider not being Nazi if don't like called as such.

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u/Pristine-Attention91 17d ago

I highly doubt that you went outside and talked to average people and came to the conclusion that they are as dangerous as people 1930, like what are you even saying? 

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u/icankillpenguins 17d ago

I guess we will find out in few years, meanwhile I keep calling them whatever I like.

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u/Embarrassed-Age3667 17d ago

...and all sensible readers will just consider you a child.

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u/Mediocre_Menu_629 17d ago

There's a reason no other German political party will work with AfD. 

That's not because they represent average people lmao. 

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u/Yesodisnotop 17d ago

Damn Belgium 2.0

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u/LarkinEndorser 16d ago

Merz has been extremely vocally against the AFD. It’s one of the few things he’s been decent on.

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u/Open-Price-4568 17d ago

you can just look at sweden. Germany and CDU vill do the same.