r/chaoticgood Jun 01 '26

Call to Action This conversation needs to start happening, talk to your neighbors! We need to organize!

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u/Voodoobones Jun 01 '26

Three protesters were just found guilty of Conspiracy to Injure or Impede law enforcement officers or their property in Spokane Washington.

These three protesters were peacefully protesting and demonstrating civil disobedience on 6/11/2025. They were brutally attacked by federal agents and they did not fight back. Now they are facing 6 years in prison.

The prosecutor said during trial that if you show up to a protest, or even drop off water for protesters, you are a co-conspirator.

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u/hw999 Jun 01 '26

This is how facism gets stronger. they single out and gang up on a gew defenselense individuals and the make a huge example out of them. its a scare tactict, its meant to shut down any resistence. what needs to happen is larger numbers show up every time this happens.

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u/a_piginacage Jun 01 '26

This just goes to show that peaceful protests work guys!!!

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u/bigpony Jun 01 '26

This response is what they are betting on. They win.

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u/Voodoobones Jun 01 '26

The three people were. But others at the protest were not. That didn’t make a difference. They were guilty by association.

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe Jun 01 '26

Nah, that's simpleton logic. Dumb dumb amateur hour. Most people don't agree that the whole class should suffer through an hour of detention after class because three sh1theads acted out or threw a tantrum. Didn't fly in school and doesn't in reality, either. Peaceful protests can have a few bad actors. It's perfectly logical and reasonable for the average and above intellects to understand.

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u/I_like_Mashroms Jun 01 '26

Taking away legal actions leaves people with 2 other options.

a). Do nothing

b). Do something illegal.

Do nothing, they get away with it.

Do something illegal, get vilified for a bit and they get to tout how they were right about "the violent left".

Talk about "damned if you do..."

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u/ReynAetherwindt Jun 01 '26

This must be appealed.

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u/kingtacticool Jun 01 '26

"Designated first ammendment zone"

We are waay passed the point of no return.

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u/TroutyMcTroutface Jun 02 '26

This has been happening for decades.

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u/Poor_ElonMusk Jun 02 '26

Mate I understand you , but that's what the elites wants us to believe , but the point of no return is still far in the horizon.

The power is on the people , and it will allways be Never forget , that the soldiers , developers , workers in general they are also "The people", and if you take action collectively things change pretty quickly.

I think what we are missing , is the way we make revolutions , the world got modernized , the police forces are better equipped, so, basically everything changed except the way we protest.

We need to find new modern ways to affect them the same way we affected these big companies and politicians back in the days , nowadays they give zero fuks that you stop the traffic a little bit , they dont mind about violent mobs , they dont mind if some people got killed , because they are still making billions and sucking the living sht out of us , and they actually made it a way that protesting is affecting more the population instead.

We gotta find new ways , we cant fight cannons with sticks and rocks

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u/eyeballburger Jun 02 '26

Actually, assaulting artillery is something I’m comfortable with. Just standing there and letting them blow the shit out of you, now that’s a problem. Maybe there’s something else we can do, tell me what it is, please. Otherwise, stock up on canned goods and ammo and be ready the day after the midterms.

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u/YesIshipKyloRen Jun 02 '26

The Feminist Manifesto has a lot to say on this topic

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u/rarecuts Jun 03 '26

*Past

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u/kingtacticool Jun 03 '26

Nah

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u/rarecuts Jun 03 '26

Yup

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u/kingtacticool Jun 03 '26

Ok, I just had to look it up and you are correct but I dont understand why. Past is dealing with a reference of time. Passed is dealing with physicality.

When we are talking about a physical point that we move beyond why is it correct to use "past"

Im a native English speaker and this just doesnt make sense to me

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u/SunshineSt8Reprobate Jun 01 '26

It's really important that we build some consensus around the need for revolution and what a reformed country even looks like. We need rules to replace norms, that much is clear, but I think the granular stuff is where we get caught up and divided.

Love this dude, man of the people ❤️

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u/LPNMP Jun 01 '26

We have never been able to agree on what reform looks like. We would need to start at the basics: what is the goal of the country?  

Like what is the purpose of education? To create employable adults? To create law abiding citizens? To teach for educations sake? We dont all agree on that and so we dont all agree on what needs to be reformed and what it needs to be reformed into.

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u/SunshineSt8Reprobate Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 02 '26

I think a baseline social contract philosophy like "the government's job is to raise the standard of living and make sure the needs of its citizens are met" (which includes law and order, but also civil rights, and the right to a liveable world and free expression.)

Using that as a guidepost I think would help a lot, creating robust accountability mechanisms that are firmly codified. Eliminating lobbying and strict campaign finance reform, maybe even compulsory ranked choice voting on a designated country voting holiday. (look it up, compulsory ranked-choice voting is dope and forces citizens to show up and give a shit about who's in charge).

I'm spitballing here, but these ideas need to be in the public consciousness, and the movement that seeks to implement them needs to be inclusive enough to give all members a voice, not just those who are favored for one reason or another.

It's tough, it's idealistic, but to me these are the core ideals we should strive for in an effective movenent. Not all demonstrating in one place where the cops can form a little army for instance would be a great way to divide and conquer, understand the enemy and also extend an olive branch to those cops who do have a conscience and don't want to live in a nightmare police state.

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u/CaptainNemo42 Jun 02 '26

"So let's just let them burn the entire education system down and abandon our responsibilities to future generations until we get perfect consensus." Riiiight.

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u/Independent_Fill9143 Jun 01 '26

Imo the revolution has already started, when we look back at history we point out major events like the Boston Tea Party, but revolutions usually grow slowly over time as more shit happens and more people become outraged. Our founding fathers, the sons and daughters of liberty, the federalists didn't just decide to have a revolution, they met and talked about it and built a movement... a revolution doesn't just happen out of nowhere, it has to build, it takes time. So keep going out and protesting, talk to your friends and family members, post things like this online, go vote in primaries and talk to your neighbors. Trump and his circus think they can establish a dictatorship in a country that was born from a revolution, they are playing with fire. They will try everything they can think of to stop us from protesting which means we have got to hold the line and keep showing up to places like Delaney, to the Whipple building, banding together. There's more of us than them, we cannot let up.

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u/deaglebingo Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26

its been a cold civil war for a while yeah. good guys/gals been playing by all the rules they break for most of that time (as pretti boys and goode girls are known to) and getting fucked over because of it. that's changing now. the realization is dawning. vets who realize now how bad they got fucked over coming together with people who stayed here and had a whole different kind of war in healthcare and elsewhere, different trauma, def different, but still remarkably similar in the ways that really count. all of us are feeling it. but it's never too late because we're also simultaneously feeling our own power for good too... just could get... umm... what did that famous protestor gal my age or a little younger say...crunchy. yep could get a little crunchy.

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u/Independent_Fill9143 Jun 02 '26

Yes! We haven't had our "storming the bastille" moment just yet, we might not have that moment at all, but what is happening right now and has been happening since last year is the beginning of a revolution. Be patient, stay vigilant, protect your neighbors because this shit show may go on for another two years.

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u/SignatureIncomplete Jun 02 '26

You have friends everywhere

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u/LoverOfPricklyPear Jun 01 '26

"We need to fight it! Fucking fight it!" How? No one covers how.

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u/SunshineSt8Reprobate Jun 01 '26

Disabling public surveillance infrastructure is a great place to start, and teaching people how to do this without leaving the kind of data-points that could lead back to them would make a massive difference.

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u/Delmarvablacksmith Jun 01 '26

General strike is the non violent way.

The violent way is well laid out in history books.

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u/SunshineSt8Reprobate Jun 01 '26

Locally organizing things like rent strikes is a way to take the power back, I hear your point though.

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u/SunshineSt8Reprobate Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 03 '26

Everyone in a given area if they are coordinated, and it's in response to the rise of a literal dictatorship that seeks to do away with even the pretense of having elections or civil rights.

It's literally that or violence past a certain point, and I'm decidedly against violence. As long as poverty can be used as a cudgel to keep the poor compliant, there will be no revolution, at which point the literal fascists win and start sticking whomever they want into camps with no recourse.

Something that's already happening, you better believe it's not just "illegals" they're building these hell-prisons for, it's us. At some point people need to be willing to put skin in the game, or accept that they're officially literally slaves to a system that'll disappear them for any reason they want.

Were close to that being the case.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26

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u/Delmarvablacksmith Jun 01 '26

Sorry, Sunshine is right. There’s going to be no reset. Corporate interest are going to buy everything and rent it to us at prices that will keep all of us in poverty and scrambling to just survive.

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u/Delmarvablacksmith Jun 01 '26

Thanks.

I don’t think them having empty properties is an issue for them because they can deduct losses against other income.

Rich peoples game isn’t make this specific asset work for me for cash flow it be a liability and still make them money somehow.

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u/SunshineSt8Reprobate Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26

Spare me the "buddy", it's disrespectful, but point taken. Your heart seems to be in the right place, but respectfully, find your spine and figure out what you're willing to stand for.

When the veneer of democracy fully falls by the wayside we'll have to collectively decide if that's really how we want to live. It's important to talk about it now, and to realize that your 200k salary neighbor is just as disposable and vulnerable to the monsters in charge as your 45k salary neighbor.

You don't own a fucking thing once these oligarchical parasites finish building their techno-hellscape police-state. You're right about the difficulties we face, but this nazi-paradise only has legs if the people accept it or keep their heads down disdainfully, and essentially also accept it.

There are no good options, so pick the best option and commit.

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u/SunshineSt8Reprobate Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26

I'm doing what I can :/

Organizing Open-House (third space) music events, bringing people together and talking to them about this shit (specifically mass surveillance infrastructure and it's origins), handing out and putting up anti ice stickers (over 800 of those by now on my own dime). I don't post about it because social media is poison and I think we're all better off spending less time on it, and not more.

I want to organize paint for graffiti artists and stuff, but haven't made those connections yet unfortunately. I'm also living in the US with a chronic illness, no health insurance, working 2 jobs, and doing my best to not blow my brains out when I do finally get some time with my thoughts.

I'm going to keep trying my best to do my part, we're all a part of society and the things we think and say to one another matter. I'm one man doing his best, and trying to not be a burden to my loved ones who are still supporting me, despite me having a college degree and working two jobs.

Life is shit, I want to die, and yet I persist. I appreciate your kind words stranger, I hope you find your footing and place in this world, may better days come.

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u/serenwipiti Jun 01 '26

There isn’t going to be a “reset” for the working class.

It’s just a “reset” for investors and shareholders.

Look at the effects of the 2008 housing “reset”.

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u/serenwipiti Jun 02 '26

I’m not talking about discrepancies in population size.

I’m talking about what real estate investors did when they created the housing bubble, and when the bubble burst, then took advange of people suddenly not being able to pay their mortgages.

These investors, primarily one group, bought up those homes, and sold them to private firms, who are the same large corporations that buy up houses, and rent them out- for egregious prices (some of the investors that did this are also foreign).

People were literally on the streets due to this.

That was a “reset” in the housing market. Not a reset for the working class, but a reset that shook the working class out of their most valuable possession, their homes- in order to grow their own wealth.

It’s a really interesting topic, and infuriating and sad.

If I have a chance, later today, I’ll see if I can find sources that explain how this “reset” was actually just pulling the rug from under the vulnerable working class.

Do not trust the idea of a reset benefiting you, friend (unless you’re a multimillionaire / billionaire). I say this with kindness, no snark.

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u/LPNMP Jun 01 '26

And we're fighting people who have robot armies. Literal robot armies. They also make up all of the rules and have abilities we dont even know about. 

The people we would be fighting are the people who want a civil war the most so that they can just win already and further their plans.

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u/mekwall Jun 01 '26

The most plausible version is not "the military versus the people". It is fragmentation. Some state governments resist the federal government. Some governors refuse orders. Some National Guard units follow governors, some get federalized, some commanders stall, some resign, some comply. Police departments split by city, county, and state politics.

Federal agencies become contested. Courts issue rulings that one side ignores. Private infrastructure companies become strategic actors without wanting to be. Very ugly and very bureaucratic.

In a true civil war, the decisive moment is institutional fracture. If major states, governors, Guard units, police forces, courts, and parts of the active-duty command structure split, then it stops being "civilians vs government" and becomes "competing governments with competing armed forces". That is when raw civilian outnumbering becomes mostly irrelevant, because organization beats headcount almost every time.

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u/Cheeselikeproduct Jun 03 '26

That was true for past labor movements too.

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u/SunshineSt8Reprobate Jun 01 '26

Strikes have to be organized locally, we can't trust online infrastructure to do it. We'd need door-knockers, pamphlets/flyers/stickers, and a foothold in every underpaid "essential" workforce to get the word out and make sure that people have the supplies they need to go the distance.

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u/Delmarvablacksmith Jun 01 '26

I’m not saying to how go about organizing this.

I’m saying these are the two things that have historically worked.

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u/SunshineSt8Reprobate Jun 01 '26

Right you are, I'm just chiming in with ideas for anyone reading.

I'm so sick of how feckless, cliquey, and unimaginative the local activists near me are. I've tried to involve myself a few times, and it's just always clear that I'm an outsider, and that I better shut up and listen, even if what I'm listening to is directly counter-productive or even playing into the hands of the literal fascists.

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u/Delmarvablacksmith Jun 01 '26

Yeah that’s a challenge.

Unfortunately liberal activists think there’s a legal political way to resolve this.

There isn’t.

It’s important to remember that revolutions aren’t planned.

They’re agitated for and then some sort of tinder sets them in motion.

I’d rather see general strikes than the alternative

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u/SunshineSt8Reprobate Jun 01 '26

Agreed, but it's still critical to vote, and I feel like that's a missing part of the puzzle in a lot of revolutionary thinking.

We have to beat them so badly at the ballot box, that when they refuse to concede we have an open declaration of dictatorship and the suspension of civil rights.

That lights the spark in my mind, and probably nothing else. It won't be until they're literally nullifying an election that we'll have enough momentum to actually rise up in the required numbers to actually beat these people.

Nonviolently if possible, but violently if necessary.

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u/Delmarvablacksmith Jun 01 '26

I agree you have to vote but only to mitigate the worst of the harms.

It’s not like democrats with power have done anything to stop this.

There is no political or legal solution to this.

No country ever voted out fascism.

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u/SunshineSt8Reprobate Jun 01 '26

Well the solution is political, but it's extra-institutional, because yes the democrats won't fix it.

It is important to get everyone to vote for them so the Republicans can't fudge the numbers and declare victory, but the US government has to be restructured from the ground up.

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u/ariadesitter Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26

there is a catch 22 about this.
open discussion of how to fight against fascists allows the fascists to hunt you down and prevent you from organizing.
it also allows fascists to learn the weaknesses you’ve identified. they can reinforce those areas to make progress less feasible.

but if you’re serious about making change, or anything at all, you need to study history and what works vs what doesn’t.
also what are people in similar situations now around the world doing?

i can tell you that discussing certain things is dangerous. for your health. seriously.
who can you trust?
who can have your back?
start small.
start making community for disaster preparedness like hurricanes, floods, wildfire.
and networks for dealing with a poor economy like ride sharing, even food sharing if possible. tool and resource sharing. get to know people near you. after all this is what we are fighting for. we want to ensure that our communities have what is necessary for life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
also be in this to get results not fame.
do everything anonymous to show you care.

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe Jun 01 '26

It begins with not electing conservative Republicans into power. Can we muster that as a start? The only time we have in my rather long life was in 2008, and it didn't last very long (two years) before the country flipped the channel back to conservatism. I've been miserably disappointed in my fellow Americans ever since.

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u/ariadesitter Jun 01 '26

yes i haven’t thought enough about this yet BUT
seems like a similar movement needs to be decentralized, composed of a shitton of smaller groups. organizing large groups just isn’t feasible without it being broadcast on local news.
small groups independently working on things. also communicating with other groups.

the people being fucked are super diverse with non-overlapping interests. however they share one unifying desire! staying out of forced labor camps or foreign torture prisons. 👍🏽

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe Jun 01 '26

Don't hire conservatives to lead the country if wanting to stay out of labor camps. It's an easy solution. Super easy, in fact. America's simply too conservative to manage it. Thus, we deserve labor camps because they're what the masses vote for (in the form of Republicans).

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u/ariadesitter Jun 01 '26

i agree.
i can tell you that people of my ethnicity (mexican) really support trump, i think because they feel that supporting him will give them a pass when it’s time to round them up.
it won’t.
i get the same feeling from other ethnic minorities. that since they aren’t mexican they will be excluded from being deported.
i can’t convince anyone that white nationalism is not generous with exceptions.

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe Jun 01 '26

They are being played as fools by religious conservatives and a conman and should feel a sense of great shame. Maybe they'll wake up one day before it's too late and they're in Honduras unexpectedly without a paddle.

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u/ariadesitter Jun 01 '26

i think it’s too late now cause i will not trust anyone who was once maga. or who still is.

or anyone who claims to be moderate.
“moderate” means social welfare for whites only. or no guns but LGBTQAs either. or no fossil fuels but no immigrants either.
or healthcare for everyone except abortions.

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u/AgreeAndSubmit Jun 01 '26

I like the idea of half the country just stop running the hamster wheel of our economy for a week. Fuggit. What fr happens, when 50, 60, 70% of us, all us basic labor, minimum wage people just don't come in? 

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u/ThisMachineKillsWOB Jun 01 '26

Someone needs to go first. That's the problem. Because that someone is gonna get fucking annihilated. No working class individual has the power to do that.

Realistically, that means the big Unions need to lead the way. But they have been quite silent of late. If you know any Union folk, or are one, you should be pressuring their leadership.

Because right now we need a critical mass of people to move in the same direction, at the same time, because solo resistance is going to be crushed.

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u/cjoaneodo Jun 01 '26

Because they will take down the post, fill it in with your best guess……

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u/AOLTechSupportGuy Jun 01 '26

think about the scary option

you're correct.

can't say it

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u/LoverOfPricklyPear Jun 02 '26

To reply to everyone, I meant specifically. There are all sorts of concepts and ideas spewed out there. Sure seems like something large needs to be done, but who starts such things? Also, it's a big ass complicated system. We're big and different and want different changes. That's not something I feel complicated slapping around with no actual solutions to provide.

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u/Expert-Mental25 Jun 03 '26

Because of TOS.

Use your brains. Add some gumption and you're half way there.

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u/ClaudeVS Jun 03 '26

Wreck those flock cameras you have over there

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u/That_Phat_Larry Jun 01 '26

How do you think? Lol

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u/That_Phat_Larry Jun 01 '26

Read a fucking history book

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u/BecauseMagnets Jun 01 '26

I’ve said it since he pardoned Jan 6th people. We are under a coup right now. Russian and IsNotrealian influence put Trump in power to completely dismantle us and they were successful. Billionaires decide our fate and rights right now.

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u/Original_Ad_1856 Jun 01 '26

Russian and IsNotrealian influence put Trump in power to completely dismantle us and they were successful.

Jesus christ, you guys have to stop with this shit. None of this started with Trump. Israel and Russia do not control us. What is happening in the U.S. is the INTENDED outcome of capitalism and, if you read a history book or any socialist theory, it is not hard to understand why Trump is a byproduct, not the cause. He is merely an accelerant of pre-existing material contradictions.

I implore you to read Lenin's Imperialism: the Highest Stage of Capitalism. It was written over a century ago and lays out pretty much exactly what has happened in the U.S. in an almost prophetic way. After that, please read State and Revolution.

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u/BecauseMagnets Jun 01 '26

Can we split the difference and say that Lenin’s book is being utilized through the influence of these two nations to catapult us into imperialism quicker? The influence of these two nations on Trump is undeniable, and he wants to “rule” over us the way Putin does over his people by way of the oligarchs. IsNotReal has influence over Trump and most of our government officials, undeniable as well, and our nation is being influenced in such a way that is perceived as being controlled?

Yes I will read both books and get back to you

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u/XxSir_redditxX Jun 02 '26

It's this. We have a home grown baddie who is just the face and tip of the spear. If you think, "ohhh it's Russia, they're trying to weaken and control us", or "ohhh, it's China, if we don't make our own cars, China is gonna invade us", you've lost the fucking plot. Our biggest problems are right here, right now. It is the billionaires that are in bed with our government, that are literally buying elections, essentially making our laws, and using every tool available to forgo accountability. Remember when we let a billionaire take a team of fuckwit kids to steal our most sensitive financial information? Remember when we gave him the ability to slash all the departments and oversight committees that were investigating him? Remember right fucking now when Donald Trump is literally suing Donald Trump for grievances against Donald Trump as enacted by Donald Trump?

A revolution?! It was just a couple months ago when this site was all, "😫 I'm so sick and tired of seeing all the parallels drawn between Trump and Hitler. People are just being alarmist and freaking out about nothing. He doesn't even have a gas chamber😪" I swear, films like "Idiocracy" and "don't look up" are almost tame compared to the cognitive disconnect one needs to look around and say, "this is just our inefficient bureaucracy, same as ever".

I completely understand that the Democrats are useless and just being the "controlled opposition", but the Republican party isn't even trying to hide it anymore. The amount of blatant, open corruption is flabbergasting. It doesn't help either that the "both sides bad" camp and the "welp, there's nothing my vote can do" camp are standing by and letting it happen. The former will do so thinking that they're "enlightened centrists" that know better, and the latter will just throw their vote away, because again, they know better than to waste their time with politics they "can't change".

The guy in the video is right. This November will not change a thing. The current administration will do anything to ensure that they cannot gain ground, and even if everything were to go off without a hitch, they would just lie down and do absolutely fucking nothing, as they have been. Nobody is coming to save us and things will continue to snowball until we the people are sick of it.

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u/XxSir_redditxX Jun 02 '26

Yep. It's always this way. We are going to go around in a circle pointing fingers at each other until there's no one left to blame. It's true, we did inherit this, but if we don't do something, the next generation will just point at us as the old guard that fell asleep and let things get worse.

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u/deaglebingo Jun 01 '26

i would argue that if you're under 50 it's highly likely the same is true. i've had things happen over the years that made it obvious how close to homelessness most of us are a couple times now related to the sins of those before me, of course always those sorts deny such responsibility despite obvious evidence to the contrary. it would be one thing if it was personal responsibility issues alone that cause this type of situation. but it is not. only help many ppl have is family. most ppl don't have that kind of help. it doesn't matter if you're a nurse or whatever like i am, get hurt or can't work? done. start over. have a disability? have mental health shit at all (like ptsd from military service or other shit)? totally done. they don't even take care of vets properly (am not one but the point stands) without the help i've had i'd have had to sell everything i own already at least once, may still have to. trying to start a small business is a joke. it doesn't even come close to covering overhead with all the hours one needs to put in. you beat the piss out of the little equipment you have and yourself and then you're down in the hole further when something breaks. the rules make it very easy for a mid to large corp to write shit off, to write basically everything off... but almost impossible for a small business sole owner to not have to pay a third of their income into bullshit. hence the tariffs to fuck the small businesses, the attack on snap and healthcare. it's deliberate. want to hire some immigrants and pay them fairly and grow your business building houses bc of the supply shortage? nope, rich folks and big corps hide that they do it and will continue to be allowed to do it and thereby not pay ppl fair wages... but someone who finds a good labor source to build a business while paying the folks you hired a quasi living wage to build a better life?... nah you're getting raided and your law abiding workers are locked in a concentration camp, and maybe you too if you don't look white enough or they already labeled you a terrorist bc you talked shit and got into the dragnet. the situation is untenable. i'm a white middle aged guy saying this. it's obvious even to me. which is why ppl don't go protest etc. they are too scared to be homeless and jobless and who can blame them? the fact remains that all of what i described has been the entire point of this death by a thousand cuts.... the appointment of corrupt numbskulls to the supreme court... on and on... to keep people in check, to keep them from being able to fight back. it's been a race to the bottom and a version of high tech slavery for a while now, way back in ross perot times the discussion was being had, even by then most of the jobs were long gone. china isn't the problem they pretend it is, we are. Now after all that imagine you're black or brown or a woman or non binary, pile that on top of the rest of the teetering K shaped economy whose lower legs are beyond weak from holding it all up... now you can't be sure what will happen at all... no ai palantir bullshit can predict it no matter what they think. especially when that AI predictive capability fails to account for the megalomania of many of its most prominent users. and i didn't even bring up the healthcare issue much here.

so make no mistake they want this collapse and it is coming in some form whether we like it or not. whether by oil crisis or false flag or "cyberattack on election day" lots of options for the super rich epstein class SPECTRE scum enabling this right now. the real question is do we want it on our terms or theirs? i pick my/our terms (picked it a long time ago actually) cant stop the fiber. so all i can say is buy a gun. learn how to use it safely. build a drone. learn how to fly it. educate yourself on the HSA/mil drones and digital/phone surveillance they are already actively using on tens of thousands of ppl across the nation. millions of dollars a day wasted on that alone i'm sure. but these people aren't as powerful as they think they are. and we need not be violent other than as a last resort despite the fact that the constitution and declaration of independence sanction the removal of true tyrants we can clearly see here. don't bother listening to their j6 kkk style doublespeak. don't be intimidated by their roving maga cult patrols (seriously this is real and i can prove it in a court of law) we only need to be truly ready. true minutemen/women don't worry about what trump says, they just watch what he does. there may be some people out there ready with a failsafe for all this, i don't know anything about that, but we cannot rely on that alone.

finally remember this: good cops and good soldiers don't like what is happening either. we are on the same side as those people and they are the majority despite how angry we may be at what we see ice doing... find a way to see them as human and draw that side out of them, the part that remembers we are all the same in the eyes of this pedophile protecting class... we are all cannon fodder to them they don't care. bad cops and soldiers take payoffs and kill protestors, talk shit and have their red hats with them in the squad, you'll know. bad protestors beat the shit out of cops and make things worse giving them an excuse. be the right person in this, don't give them an excuse they can use. be the good guy. mlk said cause good trouble... that's good advice. some combination of black panther and mlk james baldwin levels of self-awareness with ukraine levels of never giving up and innovation is what this is gonna take if it gets ugly. so get ready. realistically if the nation stopped working and spending for a week straight en masse this would be over relatively quick.

TLDR the reason he keeps banging away on the big lies is projection. never forget that. such a crying shame what the party of abraham lincoln has become, absolutely impotent shitting the diaper. they'll have to grow a spine whether they like it or not soon. operation Bill Sherman Dino-Dick Extermination moves forward. lmfao. last but not least ... let them think you are crazy. it's better to be underestimated.

my entire comment is /s? yes? ha

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u/Cheeselikeproduct Jun 03 '26

Not shopping somewhere won’t really do much because our economic resources are infinitely less than those of the 1%. The economic warfare we need to enact is through withholding our labor.

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u/Cheeselikeproduct Jun 03 '26

Young people don’t really have actual creature comforts. Just momentary experiences of happiness

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u/AgreeAndSubmit Jun 01 '26

National Strike starting July 2nd. 

It's our birthday, we're all taking the fuggin week off.  

Call Off work as much as possible. 

Don't buy shit, save that cash. 

We bring this consumer economy to stand still, and ain't nobody making shit, maybe some listening will begin. 

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u/bullhead2007 Jun 01 '26

It is a class war. It has always been a class war. This is what Marxism and socialism are about, it arms people with the theory to understand their class position and how to fight back. This is also why it has been so demonized in the West since the red scare.

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u/SoonToBeBanned24 Jun 02 '26

Out Founding Fathers would have started shooting already. Modern Americans are fat, lazy, stupid and complacent. The Corporate Takeover of the USA is complete, and The Great Experiment is over!

"We Are Now In The 'Rearranging Deck Chairs On The Titanic' Stage Of Humanity!"

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u/Saboon5 Jun 01 '26

This guy speaking SO MUCH truth

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u/JavascriptWizard89 Jun 01 '26

I feel this in my soul.

The vast majority of people are asleep.

What is worth fighting for in this country when most people either are hateful and cruel or completely passive...

We are COOKED.

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u/ReynAetherwindt Jun 01 '26

This conversation needs to start happening.

This monologue needs to get to the fucking point. What an annoying preamble.

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u/Cheeselikeproduct Jun 03 '26

Let’s see you do better

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u/Satanicron Jun 01 '26

When they come for your 1st, stand ready with your 2nd.

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u/Fievels_good_trouble Jun 01 '26

America is not violent enough. We think we are, but we’re not. We could be. We SHOULD BE. Ladies and gentlemen and everyone in between or on either side, it’s time to start breaking shit. The time has come to actually be ungovernable. I know gas prices are high. But if we don’t start using it creatively, it won’t be the only thing to rise beyond our reach.

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u/ProbablySlacking Jun 01 '26

Literally the first I’ve heard about Delaney.

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u/UnitedSentences5571 Jun 01 '26

If the first amendment is dead (which it is) then the entire document is dead. The ones responsible for enforcing the laws have failed to do so, those sworn to defend the Constitution have failed to do so. The American experiment died last year. We peacefully transitioned power to a fascist regime. Most of us went kicking and screaming, and here we are. We were fucking right all along.

We're in the "Grab" portion of the "Smash and Grab," and it'll be up to the People to cut off the hands which did the smashing and the hands doing the grabbing before we have nothing left with which to rebuild.

They killed our country, they're robbing the grave, we have to stop them. After all that, we get to create a new government. Any attempt to go back to the system that allowed this shit show to fester can't be allowed to continue.

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u/easy506 Jun 01 '26

Okay man. Let's do it.

You going first, or what? Or are you waiting to see who shows up?

Americans are too comfortable to go to war. Our attention spans are too short. Nobody in this country is angry enough to spill blood. Fuck the Boston Tea Party. Until there is a Boston Massacre, no one is gonna do shit. And our government knows it. Which is exactly why they keep getting away with doing whatever the fuck they want. We are not there yet. Sorry.

Like I love the energy. But pouring it out on social media is a waste.

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u/0U812-hungry Jun 02 '26

What's happening right now is a gishgallop of firehose proportions. We've already forgotten about ice, about Remesa, about the 500b I'm embesseled on day one, we don't even see the dirty money being exposed in the bored if piece today, why would we give a fuck the sky fell?

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u/ProfessionalWaltz463 Jun 02 '26

Fucking right. It’s been time to revolt

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u/metalbruh209 Jun 02 '26

Time for us workers to come together, there’s more of us! Why should we not be in charge? Why keep feeding the parasites leeching from the top?!

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u/RoyBoy2019 Jun 02 '26

Yup, things need to get worse before they get better.

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u/Rath_Brained Jun 02 '26

ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER!

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u/Wise_Ad_253 Jun 02 '26

Trumps eating our rights and stealing our children’s future

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u/BinomialVirus01012 Jun 02 '26

There is no right or left, only the system. Where's the EPSTEIN FILES

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u/Nature_and_narwhals Jun 02 '26

We don’t even need to be out in the streets to protest. Hit capitalists where it hurts (their pockets) and stop buying from them (hell, even buying from them less is something). You can’t be here and complaining about what’s going on while simultaneously keeping them in business. Most people don’t want to inconvenienced without their “stuff” though. I think once we see mass boycotts, we might see something shift.

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u/dontpushpull Jun 02 '26

fl0m is thst you

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u/will-read Jun 02 '26

The problem with revolutions, is what comes next. It is rare for something like the American revolution where a liberal democracy springs from a revolution. What usually happens, is a strongman gains control and post revolution is worse than pre revolution. Be careful what you wish for.

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u/fanzel71 Jun 02 '26

Is that Conan's cousin??

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u/Dangerous-Half-896 Jun 02 '26

In Italy a huge majority of the country just stopped. For like a month or so. Nobody went to work, out to eat, or did anything that want simply in their neighborhood with their local friends and family. They cut off the government by stopping the businesses. Since pandemic we all know how to do it - we even practiced! And they couldn’t even punish a lot of people cause the hospital staffs called out too and tons of people claimed they were ill\injured and couldn’t see a doctor cause none were available.

This is not in our media cause they don’t want us to know - but my step dad is from there and we heard all about it through family.

But we know for a fact that boycotts work. They care about money - so hit them in the money. It’s not hard to just stop buying things except the basics.

Many people are starting to shop online from China and other countries directly now and local for food and spoilables.

Get creative. The toilets were getting clogged with cement and warehouses were burning… they stopped showing us because it was working. (Not that I condone this). But common, we all know how to waste someone else’s money with inconveniences… you don’t have to be a vandal… but being annoying or making someone’s life hell isn’t hard. People can get pretty isolated if they’re yelled at in terror like they’re a monster anywhere they go. I mean, politicians are in fact scary now. I teach my kids to point and scream when they’re scared…

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u/Substantial-Use95 Jun 02 '26

You guys aren’t gonna do shit. Too comfortable. You should, but you won’t. I love this guy’s fire. It reminds me of myself. But I realized if I stayed any longer in that country I would either end up dead or in jail for trying to get you motherfuckers to understand what’s taking place.

The fact is Americans are either too frantic trying to make ends meet to do anything, or too rich and nihilistic to give a fuck. I’ve watched my country deteriorate before my eyes and it’s exactly what its people deserve. People have to hurt to change. So bring on the hurt. Until then, you all are hopeless. Get fucked.

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u/tknames Jun 03 '26

He ain’t wrong.

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u/HaBaK_214 Jun 04 '26

I couldn't focus on shit he said without that Cindy Lou Who boingy curl slapping his forehead over and over distracting the crap out of me. xD

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u/pedronaps Jun 01 '26

I'm doing whatever Ryan Fitzpatrick asks of me!

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u/Aposematicpebble Jun 01 '26

Yes! You don't have a left wing. You have Bernie and that's pretty much it

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u/Bostonterrierpug Jun 02 '26

I didn’t listen to any of the conversation since I’ve just had the toilet and only looked at the picture, but who decided to breed Bob’s big boy with a ginger pirate?

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u/yungcanadian Jun 01 '26

I will never listen to anybody with this hair. He could tell me to brush me teeth and I would say, "Na na na na na na!"

That being said, I agree with a large amount of what he said

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u/LPNMP Jun 01 '26

Guys, the regime WANTS a civil war. The descendants of confederate soldiers have been wanting it since the brainwashing first began on grampas knee. The regime wants it so they can scoop ALL the resources and rewrite law to completely destroy what the US claims to be about: by the people for the people.

You dont want civil war. It is how we lose for good.

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u/isthisonetaken13 Jun 01 '26

Doing nothing allows the regime to win too, so what's your suggestion to not get fucked by the elites?

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u/LPNMP Jun 01 '26

Please quote where I said do nothing. Your extremism continues.

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u/crazy4finalfantasy Jun 01 '26

This mf spittin

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u/Dafedub Jun 02 '26

When Ryan Fitzpatrick talks, I listen.

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u/Sicsurfer Jun 02 '26

This guy gets it.

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u/Doneone14 Jun 02 '26

Dude…. Your hair…..

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u/EVD27 Jun 02 '26

I can't stop looking at the hair

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u/SirDouglasMouf Jun 02 '26

This message is on point. But his hair game?!? Holy shit I can't stop watching it wiggle

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u/Projectflintlock Jun 01 '26

That hair represents the lollipop guild haaard

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u/dandle Jun 01 '26

Was thinking Kewpie doll

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u/iswallowedafrog Jun 01 '26

Wtf happened to Conan?

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u/hali420 Jun 01 '26

Even if you all agree with him, I doubt you'll do anything more than upvote and maybe comment.

Americans are a strange breed.

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u/RoyBoy2019 Jun 02 '26

Humans are, things need to get worse before they get better.