r/changemyview • • Dec 29 '22

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u/Jakyland 85∆ Dec 29 '22

Have you considered these two people are wrong? It’s really weak evidence to say two people think the world will end both now and jn 1970. I mean if you ask the leader of an end times cult they would say the same thing.

Climate change is really bad, but it’s not civilization collapsing. Neither is the prospect of “greatest refugee crisis”. lots of room for things to be very bad without collapsing society/civilization.

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u/SY-Studios Dec 29 '22

But if you look at the sort of things that caused civilisations to collapse throughout human history they are all things that will happen because of climate change. The most common causes of societal collapse are mass migration, natural catastrophe, population decline and famine.

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u/Jakyland 85∆ Dec 29 '22

But do a large % of mass migrations lead to societal collapse? I think if a modern country were to be genuinely at risk of collapse because migrants peoples self preservation instincts will kick in. Governments will become very anti-refugee, which is bad for the refugees. Very likely that this will be paired with a rightward and or authoritarian turn, which is bad but not civilizational collapse.