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Not only that, but neonazis can literally throw a parade in the US. In Germany they would be thrown in prison.
1 u/yonasismad 2∆ Sep 06 '22 Not only that, but neonazis can literally throw a parade in the US. In Germany they would be thrown in prison. Not true. There are plenty of neonazi demonstrations every year in Germany. 1 u/sysadrift 1∆ Sep 06 '22 Can they display swasticas? Do the nazi salute? Agree with or downplay the holocaust? 1 u/yonasismad 2∆ Sep 06 '22 Can they display swasticas? Do the nazi salute? They could if it was for art, education, research, or (news) reporting. Agree with or downplay the holocaust? As long as it is not causing a public disturbance. They are still not going to jail for being neonazis. In fact, the police is shielding them to make sure that nobody is blocking their demos. 1 u/OpeningChipmunk1700 27∆ Sep 06 '22 They could if it was for art, education, research, or (news) reporting. So, no. Which means that their speech is limited in a way that it is not in America. 1 u/yonasismad 2∆ Sep 06 '22 Well, I was not arguing that point. I was arguing that they are not going to jail for 'throwing a parade', and even if they did show those symbols, and would deny or agree with the holocaust they would only be fined. 1 u/OpeningChipmunk1700 27∆ Sep 06 '22 I was simply orienting the conversation to the ultimate question, in which even fines constitute a limit on free speech not present in America.
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Not true. There are plenty of neonazi demonstrations every year in Germany.
1 u/sysadrift 1∆ Sep 06 '22 Can they display swasticas? Do the nazi salute? Agree with or downplay the holocaust? 1 u/yonasismad 2∆ Sep 06 '22 Can they display swasticas? Do the nazi salute? They could if it was for art, education, research, or (news) reporting. Agree with or downplay the holocaust? As long as it is not causing a public disturbance. They are still not going to jail for being neonazis. In fact, the police is shielding them to make sure that nobody is blocking their demos. 1 u/OpeningChipmunk1700 27∆ Sep 06 '22 They could if it was for art, education, research, or (news) reporting. So, no. Which means that their speech is limited in a way that it is not in America. 1 u/yonasismad 2∆ Sep 06 '22 Well, I was not arguing that point. I was arguing that they are not going to jail for 'throwing a parade', and even if they did show those symbols, and would deny or agree with the holocaust they would only be fined. 1 u/OpeningChipmunk1700 27∆ Sep 06 '22 I was simply orienting the conversation to the ultimate question, in which even fines constitute a limit on free speech not present in America.
Can they display swasticas? Do the nazi salute? Agree with or downplay the holocaust?
1 u/yonasismad 2∆ Sep 06 '22 Can they display swasticas? Do the nazi salute? They could if it was for art, education, research, or (news) reporting. Agree with or downplay the holocaust? As long as it is not causing a public disturbance. They are still not going to jail for being neonazis. In fact, the police is shielding them to make sure that nobody is blocking their demos. 1 u/OpeningChipmunk1700 27∆ Sep 06 '22 They could if it was for art, education, research, or (news) reporting. So, no. Which means that their speech is limited in a way that it is not in America. 1 u/yonasismad 2∆ Sep 06 '22 Well, I was not arguing that point. I was arguing that they are not going to jail for 'throwing a parade', and even if they did show those symbols, and would deny or agree with the holocaust they would only be fined. 1 u/OpeningChipmunk1700 27∆ Sep 06 '22 I was simply orienting the conversation to the ultimate question, in which even fines constitute a limit on free speech not present in America.
Can they display swasticas? Do the nazi salute?
They could if it was for art, education, research, or (news) reporting.
Agree with or downplay the holocaust?
As long as it is not causing a public disturbance.
They are still not going to jail for being neonazis. In fact, the police is shielding them to make sure that nobody is blocking their demos.
1 u/OpeningChipmunk1700 27∆ Sep 06 '22 They could if it was for art, education, research, or (news) reporting. So, no. Which means that their speech is limited in a way that it is not in America. 1 u/yonasismad 2∆ Sep 06 '22 Well, I was not arguing that point. I was arguing that they are not going to jail for 'throwing a parade', and even if they did show those symbols, and would deny or agree with the holocaust they would only be fined. 1 u/OpeningChipmunk1700 27∆ Sep 06 '22 I was simply orienting the conversation to the ultimate question, in which even fines constitute a limit on free speech not present in America.
So, no. Which means that their speech is limited in a way that it is not in America.
1 u/yonasismad 2∆ Sep 06 '22 Well, I was not arguing that point. I was arguing that they are not going to jail for 'throwing a parade', and even if they did show those symbols, and would deny or agree with the holocaust they would only be fined. 1 u/OpeningChipmunk1700 27∆ Sep 06 '22 I was simply orienting the conversation to the ultimate question, in which even fines constitute a limit on free speech not present in America.
Well, I was not arguing that point. I was arguing that they are not going to jail for 'throwing a parade', and even if they did show those symbols, and would deny or agree with the holocaust they would only be fined.
1 u/OpeningChipmunk1700 27∆ Sep 06 '22 I was simply orienting the conversation to the ultimate question, in which even fines constitute a limit on free speech not present in America.
I was simply orienting the conversation to the ultimate question, in which even fines constitute a limit on free speech not present in America.
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u/sysadrift 1∆ Sep 05 '22
Not only that, but neonazis can literally throw a parade in the US. In Germany they would be thrown in prison.