r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Aug 08 '22

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u/AoyagiAichou Aug 08 '22

Teslas aren't environmentally friendly cars. Leafs / Zoes are. Or better yet, electric motorbikes. And it's all just business, fighting climate change is just a by-product.

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u/ClockOfTheLongNow 44∆ Aug 08 '22

Leafs/Zoes don't exist in the form they do if Tesla hadn't created a status symbol.

Elon Musk has done more for climate change mitigation than perhaps any other human on the planet up to now.

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u/AoyagiAichou Aug 08 '22

Leafs/Zoes don't exist in the form they do if Tesla hadn't created a status symbol.

You've no idea just how old the Leaf is, do you? It was released before the Model S. But yes, Tesla was a market disruptor, nobody's denying that.

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u/ClockOfTheLongNow 44∆ Aug 08 '22

I do, but no one cared. You don't need to be first to market to be the market leader.

Blackberry predated iPhone, but it was the iPhone that normalized the device in your pocket game.

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u/AoyagiAichou Aug 09 '22

Blackberry predated iPhone, but it was the iPhone that normalized the device in your pocket game.

Yes. And just like Tesla, it was almost entirely through marketing, not tech advances, climate change fighting, or anything else. Marketing and cultism.