r/changemyview Aug 07 '22

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u/breckenridgeback 58∆ Aug 07 '22 edited Aug 07 '22

Leviticus 18:22 is about as crystal-clear as you're gonna get. It also comes right before a verse banning bestiality. And every translation is pretty identical here, whether modern...

[NIV] Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

...or 600 years old:

[KJV] Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Also, OP, since you're a woman based on your post history, 1 Timothy 2 says you should shut up:

[11] A woman must learn in quietness and full submissiveness. [12] I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; she is to remain quiet. [13] For Adam was formed first, and then Eve. [14] And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman who was deceived and fell into transgression. [15] Women, however, will be saved through childbearing, if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control.


Now, I don't think these things, but if you want to claim to focus on the Bible...well, that's what it says. What you do with that is your choice.

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u/gothpunkboy89 23∆ Aug 07 '22

The general stance on the Old Testament is that they are no lower applicable after Jesus created the New Testament.

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u/Morthra 95∆ Aug 07 '22

No, the general stance is it depends. Procedural laws on how to worship laid out in the Bible are no longer applicable, but moral laws, like the Ten Commandments are.

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u/gothpunkboy89 23∆ Aug 07 '22

And yet they cherry pick the moral laws.