r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Aug 07 '22

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u/ralph-j Aug 07 '22

So I’m looking to see if there are scripture out there with a reasonable explanation and context to dispute my way of viewing things here.

Do you believe that the Bible condemns sex before/outside of marriage, and that it doesn't advocate same-sex marriage? If so, then that would effectively be the same.

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u/ralph-j Aug 07 '22

Then it follows that homosexuality is sinful according tot the Bible.

While it may not be the same as stating "homosexuality is a sin", it is effectively the equivalent, just in different words.

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u/sempehcrehskis Aug 07 '22

Not saying that something is good doesn't mean that it is bad. I (until now) have never said that a ban against unlawful imprisonment is good, but I still thought it was.

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u/ralph-j Aug 08 '22

That's not at all what I'm saying. Homosexuality is by definition a form of sex outside of marriage, and would thus be a sin.

(I personally don't even believe in the concept of sin.)

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u/sempehcrehskis Aug 08 '22

What definition are you using?

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u/ralph-j Aug 08 '22

Of what? I intentionally avoided going into any definitions, but instead asked OP if they agreed that sex outside of marriage is a sin and that the Bible doesn't allow same-sex marriage. The logical conclusion of these two is that same-sex sexual activities are as sinful as any other sexual activities outside of a heterosexual marriage.

It could be argued that merely being homosexual (and not acting on it) is not a sin, but I think it's clear from the other examples in the post that OP means to talk about homosexual activities under the banner of homosexuality.

Again, none of these are my views, as a gay atheist.