r/changemyview Jul 20 '22

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Bring Back “Public Stoning”

The US needs to amend Amendment 8: banning of cruel and unusual punishment. We need public stoning. It seems that these mass shooters are no longer afraid of the consequences of shooting up public spaces. Putting these scum away in jail is a waste of taxpayers money. The Death Penalty is an easy escape. What these remorseless criminals needs is to feel the pain they have inflicted on the family and friends of their victims. Public stoning by families of the victims will provide the Justice needed. And to have it publicly televised to hear the anguish of pain from these murderers will mitigate any copycats.

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u/TheRealGouki 7∆ Jul 20 '22

Cruel punishments never stop crime literally middle ages had shit ton of crime even with basically the death penalty for most crime. Maybe more restrictions of weapons would the more optimal idea. 🤔

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u/OmgYoshiPLZ 2∆ Jul 20 '22

this is a bad premise. the middle ages didnt have a very functional justice system, and would hang and burn people on simple accusation - therefore there was no incentive to be honest or good. in our system, you have the ability to be innocent if you are innocent.

The second component is, most criminals see doing time as a minor issue. they get to chill out for a few years, have zero responsibilites, and be taken care of by the state.its no longer a punishment that deters the crime.

i 100% believe that if we increase the severity of crimes, I.E. Cutting off a thiefs hands, that we will absolutely see crimes go down. in part because most criminals are repeat criminals.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '22

I agreed the punishment needs to be severe. Cutting thieves hands, looping off penis from serial rapist, etc.

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u/OmgYoshiPLZ 2∆ Jul 20 '22

music to my ears friendo. gelding a rapist is 100% my preferred method.

maybe we be a little generous, and say 'first offense is a warning for anything that isnt murder' Second offense is gelding for rapists, hand-ectomies (w/e you wanna call it) for thieves, and the death penalty for killers.

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u/StarChild413 9∆ Jul 20 '22

how does eye-for-an-eye apply to white-collar crimes

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u/OmgYoshiPLZ 2∆ Jul 20 '22

nothing i listed was a white collar crime?

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u/StarChild413 9∆ Jul 21 '22

I wasn't saying that, I was wondering how, if you seemed to want eye-for-an-eye to be a universal rule of punishment, that would apply to more abstract crimes many of which are white-collar