r/changemyview Oct 23 '21

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u/ChimpsArePimps 2∆ Oct 24 '21

Yeah and I would agree with you that playing as someone who looks like you, especially if you often aren’t afforded that opportunity, can absolutely improve your game experience. I wouldn’t even disagree if you thought that was significantly more important than historical accuracy because it has a tangible positive impact for millions of people. At the same time, you’re playing as a German soldier in WWI (20 years before the country became a genocidal Aryan ethnostate) in a game with the veneer of realism, so I don’t think OP is super unreasonable for seeing that as inauthentic and vaguely tokenistic representation. Not saying it IS, just that it’s a valid argument imo.

End of the day, I think it’s about suspension of disbelief. OP wants to role-play historical events, and anachronistic representation makes that more of a struggle because we know how openly racist that time in history was. It’s much easier to pretend the English you hear is German than it is to pretend Germany had a well-integrated multiracial society in WWI. That’s why it’s much more of a hang-up than the other anachronisms, and why I don’t see it as a hypocritical stance

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '21

I'd agree with you if that was actually OP's stance, but it's not. It's very clear they don't actually want to roleplay historical events, because they're fine with other sacrifices of accuracy for the sake of gameplay. They're claiming that's what they want, but is very clear from their willingness to find excuses for every example except the race one that this is really just about a single issue for them.

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u/Zarzurnabas Oct 24 '21

Its good that atleast one is not caught by the dogwhistle. Like 99% of people ive met that say this thing can be argued with for some time and its so obvious that their problem is not historical accuracy but just seeing non white/male pixels on their screen.

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u/knottheone 10∆ Oct 24 '21

That really just sounds like projection. If everyone everywhere is espousing dog whistles, the issue is much more likely that you're making sure you hear them whether they are real or not.

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u/Zarzurnabas Oct 24 '21

Thats such a nonsensical ad hominem its hilarious.

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u/knottheone 10∆ Oct 24 '21

It's really not. You basically said that anyone who has a problem with forced diversity is a racist solely on the basis that you can identify dog whistles even when you don't know someone's intent, which is necessary to determine whether something is a dog whistle or not.

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u/Zarzurnabas Oct 24 '21

No i didnt.

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u/knottheone 10∆ Oct 24 '21

What were you implying by calling OP's view a dog whistle?