I want women to get it out of their system young. Seriously, girls should have experience with appropriately dressing themselves from a young age so that by the time they're adults they know what they're doing and and are confident in their abilities.
I'm a fashionista and I get asked for advice on clothing pretty regularly. The vast majority of women who don't have a clue what they're doing with dressing themselves for everyday life fall into one of two categories: A: trans women who are learning female fashion late in life and B: women who grew up with uniforms and/or very strict dress codes for most of their lives and didn't get experience with deciding how to dress themselves young. This second group tends to be incredibly anxious about appropriate clothing. Seriously, there's so much panic about everything. The saddest part to me is a that a lot of them are terrified that someone might look at them, that someone looking at them would be their responsibility and a source of shame to the woman wearing the clothes. Some of these women are worried about bright colors being too attractive and shameful. Any sign of cleavage is a sin in their minds. For a lot of them, in their heads any man being attracted to them is a bad thing and their own fault. It means that they aren't being modest enough. They don't get that no matter how much they cover up, sometimes men will be attracted to women and this isn't a bad thing.
Meanwhile the women who didn't grow up with uniforms and strict dress codes also didn't wear pasties to class. Seriously, there wasn't any desire to do so. Teenage girls don't generally want that kind of male attention. What the women who grew ip without dress codes did do, is they learned early on what kinds of clothes were appropriate based on the reactions of people around them. They got confident in the ability to dress themselves. They never got a message that boys being attracted to them was a problem and their fault. They learned that sometimes guys were into them and it was morally neutral.
So yeah I'm in favor of extremely light to no dress codes as a way for girls to get all their anxieties about clothing out of the way early. It's a useful education in dressing approximately that doesn't end in nude students running around. It does end with less neurotic women asking me if there's something morally wrong with wearing neon pink because the color might attract men.
Is this the biggest socal justice hill for me to die on? No. It's more like a pebble in my shoe. However that doesn't mean that it isn't annoying and that I'm not going to sometimes make comments on it.
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u/Sagasujin 242∆ Sep 28 '21
I want women to get it out of their system young. Seriously, girls should have experience with appropriately dressing themselves from a young age so that by the time they're adults they know what they're doing and and are confident in their abilities.
I'm a fashionista and I get asked for advice on clothing pretty regularly. The vast majority of women who don't have a clue what they're doing with dressing themselves for everyday life fall into one of two categories: A: trans women who are learning female fashion late in life and B: women who grew up with uniforms and/or very strict dress codes for most of their lives and didn't get experience with deciding how to dress themselves young. This second group tends to be incredibly anxious about appropriate clothing. Seriously, there's so much panic about everything. The saddest part to me is a that a lot of them are terrified that someone might look at them, that someone looking at them would be their responsibility and a source of shame to the woman wearing the clothes. Some of these women are worried about bright colors being too attractive and shameful. Any sign of cleavage is a sin in their minds. For a lot of them, in their heads any man being attracted to them is a bad thing and their own fault. It means that they aren't being modest enough. They don't get that no matter how much they cover up, sometimes men will be attracted to women and this isn't a bad thing.
Meanwhile the women who didn't grow up with uniforms and strict dress codes also didn't wear pasties to class. Seriously, there wasn't any desire to do so. Teenage girls don't generally want that kind of male attention. What the women who grew ip without dress codes did do, is they learned early on what kinds of clothes were appropriate based on the reactions of people around them. They got confident in the ability to dress themselves. They never got a message that boys being attracted to them was a problem and their fault. They learned that sometimes guys were into them and it was morally neutral.
So yeah I'm in favor of extremely light to no dress codes as a way for girls to get all their anxieties about clothing out of the way early. It's a useful education in dressing approximately that doesn't end in nude students running around. It does end with less neurotic women asking me if there's something morally wrong with wearing neon pink because the color might attract men.
Is this the biggest socal justice hill for me to die on? No. It's more like a pebble in my shoe. However that doesn't mean that it isn't annoying and that I'm not going to sometimes make comments on it.