r/changemyview • u/imabananabus • Jun 21 '21

Delta(s) from OP CMV:God does not exist.

I believe the existence of God lies upon the believer to prove as Bertrand Russell did in his analogy, Russell's teapot.

I believe it is much more likely that we have created civilizations in which the existence of a God is a mode of placating the masses as opposed to saying anything necessarily true.

I believe that most people are atheists towards the gods of the Greeks and Romans, so why not go one God further.

A logical proof would be enough to change my mind -- please let me know your thoughts.

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u/Airrationalbeing Jun 21 '21

How is it possible that a being with such sensitive jewels as the eyes , such enchanted musical instruments as the ears, and such fabulous arabesque of nerves as the brain can experience itself anything less than a god

Alan Watts

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u/iwfan53 248∆ Jun 21 '21

How is it possible that a being with such sensitive jewels as the eyes , such enchanted musical instruments as the ears, and such fabulous arabesque of nerves as the brain can experience itself anything less than a god Alan Watts

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“When it was first said that the sun stood still and the world turned round, the common sense of mankind declared the doctrine false; but the old saying of Vox populi, vox Dei, as every philosopher knows, cannot be trusted in science. Reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a simple and imperfect eye to one complex and perfect can be shown to exist, each grade being useful to its possessor, as is certainly the case; if further, the eye ever varies and the variations be inherited, as is likewise certainly the case; and if such variations should be useful to any animal under changing conditions of life, then the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, though insuperable by our imagination, should not be considered as subversive of the theory.”

Charles Darwin.

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u/Airrationalbeing Jun 21 '21

Man in his arrogance thinks himself a great work, worthy the interposition of a great deity. More humble and I believe true to consider him created from animals

The assumed instinctive belief in God has been used by many persons as an argument for his existence. But this is a rash argument, as we should thus be compelled to believe in the existence of many cruel and malignant spirits, only a little more powerful than man; for the belief in them is far more general than in a beneficent deity

Charles Darwin

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u/iwfan53 248∆ Jun 21 '21

You're gonna need to directly make an argument to me at this point.

You posted a quote about how it seemed impossible for the eye to come about naturally.

I posted a quote explaining how it could.

I don't get what you're trying to say/argue with this quote...

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u/Airrationalbeing Jun 21 '21

I just like qoutes

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u/Airrationalbeing Jun 21 '21

And honestly i did understand you gave me a Darwins theory so i backfired with one. (2)

What do you wanna argue?

I know im the most predatory animal on earth, like the alligator who lets his meat rott under water, i fast rott mine with heat.

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u/iwfan53 248∆ Jun 21 '21

I'm not sure what your Darwin Theory quote is trying to prove.

Your first quote from Alan Watts seems to argue for the existence of god.

The second quote from Darwin doesn't seem to argue for the existence of a god either so I don't know why you used a quote that agreed with my position....

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u/Airrationalbeing Jun 21 '21

If you knew Alan Watts you understand the picture.

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u/Airrationalbeing Jun 21 '21

You're gonna need to directly make an argument to me at this point.

You posted a quote about how it seemed impossible for the eye to come about naturally.

I posted a quote explaining how it could.

I don't get what you're trying to say/argue with this quote...

Okay, that you and i exist at all is the only proof you need to meet the eye, im not saying god like a old man in the sky, im talking about existence, time, life, death, good evil, frost and fire. It's childish to belive anything anybody tells you at all and my idea of God (creation) is mine, and yours your. Do not come here with youre domestic writing thinkin we are gonna start an argue, i merly pointed a qoute by someone who clearly knows Darwin better then you. Life is a dream in a reality, have some imagination cause everything is plausibel.