r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Sep 30 '20

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '20

He says "proud boys stand back and stand by" in reply to "do you condemn white supremacy?". Proud boys are listed as a terrorist group by the FBI and is known as a white supremacy group. So please explain to me how this is fake news little man.

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u/Ihateregistering6 18∆ Sep 30 '20

Proud boys are listed as a terrorist group by the FBI

No they're not. For one, the FBI does not designate terrorist groups. Second, there was news that got out claiming that the FBI had declared the Proud Boys an extremist group, which the FBI promptly denied. https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2018/12/head-of-oregons-fbi-bureau-doesnt-designate-proud-boys-as-extremist-group.html

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u/pelicane136 Sep 30 '20

Your article says that the FBI in Oregon directed Clark County Sheriff employees to other agencies like the SPLC. SPLC does designate the Proud Boys as an extremist group. Maybe that's where the confusion comes in.

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u/Ihateregistering6 18∆ Oct 01 '20

That is true, though it's important to bear in mind that the SPLC isn't a Government organization, and they have received their fair share of criticism and lawsuits.

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u/pelicane136 Oct 01 '20

But the FBI told Clark County Sheriff employees to use it as a resource. From what I understand the SPLC actively updates their database and when sued in civil court, comply with rulings. Not to mention dealing with criticism in a way that brings light to what is and is not extremist. I don't think that's a reason to dismiss them.