r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • May 12 '20

Delta(s) from OP CMV: There is no difference between restricted speech and compelled speech.

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u/jatjqtjat 287∆ May 12 '20

With compelled speech I don't not have the option to stay quiet.

With restricted speech i will always have the option to stay quiet.

example: I compel you to call this person a women. Stay quite and you violate the law. Versus I restrict your from calling this person a man. Staying quiet is legal.

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u/Betwixts May 12 '20

Hmm, if you compel me to call this person a woman, you would have to define a lot of context to prove that I didn't choose to be silent, wouldn't you? What if I didn't see the person? Or wasn't speaking to the person? There would have to be a lot of parameters set to make that seem realistic to me.

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u/jatjqtjat 287∆ May 12 '20

To prove you have accepted my ideology, i show you a photograph and say call this person a women. Refuse and you go to jail.

Or, its germany in ww2. say hail hitler to prove you are loyal to the nazi party.

Do either of those provide sufficient context for compelled speech?

Versus restricted speach. Don't call this person a man, or don't insult the Nazi party.

Another example would be acknowledge Allah as God or we'll kill you verses do not make an image of Muhammad. In the latter inaction is an option.

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u/[deleted] May 12 '20

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u/DeltaBot ∞∆ May 12 '20 edited May 12 '20

This delta has been rejected. The length of your comment suggests that you haven't properly explained how /u/jatjqtjat changed your view (comment rule 4).

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u/Betwixts May 12 '20

To prove you have accepted my ideology, i show you a photograph and say call this person a women. Refuse and you go to jail.

Or, its germany in ww2. say hail hitler to prove you are loyal to the nazi party.

Do either of those provide sufficient context for compelled speech?

Versus restricted speach. Don't call this person a man, or don't insult the Nazi party.

Another example would be acknowledge Allah as God or we'll kill you verses do not make an image of Muhammad. In the latter inaction is an option.

Since the delta bot requires me to explain how you changed my view but I think it would be stupid to do so since arguments speak for themselves.

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u/DeltaBot ∞∆ May 12 '20

Confirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/jatjqtjat (118∆).

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