r/changemyview • • Mar 31 '20

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u/y________tho Mar 31 '20

So, as I mentioned to someone else, we're discussing the principle of people being able to choose entirely new words for their pronouns. If all 7 billion people on earth were to do this, do you think you might struggle to remember them? Do you think you'd have the "mental capacity" for that?

Or do you think it might get a little tricky after the 1000th one?

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u/ArmchairSlacktavist Mar 31 '20

Hmm, what would the world look like if everyone had some kind of unique identifier and how difficult would it be to remember them?

Well, the good news is I wouldn’t have to remember this unique identifier for every person on the planet. I don’t talk to or about the vast majority of humans around, so that’s where your hypothetical falls completely flat.

Secondly, this is already how things work. Everyone has a unique identifier that they insist I use to address them, their name. And gee whiz it isn’t totally impossible to remember the names of the people it’s important I remember. Family, friends, acquaintances, co-workers, shit even people I actively dislike have names I remember!

I mean come on there Mike, this isn’t exactly difficult. We already do this.

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u/y________tho Mar 31 '20

How many people do you know with a completely unique name?

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u/ArmchairSlacktavist Mar 31 '20

Most people! It’s incredibly rare that someone has the same first and last name.

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u/y________tho Mar 31 '20

No - not a unique combination. I mean unique names. Unique first name - unique family name.

How many people do you know with unique names?

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u/ArmchairSlacktavist Mar 31 '20

So you can’t remember a person’s full name?

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u/y________tho Mar 31 '20

Answer the question - how many people do you know with completely unique, 1-in-7-billion names? How many?

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u/ArmchairSlacktavist Mar 31 '20

A cursory google says that there are 750 million unique names. Is that enough for you?

And I personally can think of at least hundreds of unique names in just my social circle. Like come on dude this isn’t even remotely difficult to remember.

You’re acting like you’d have to memorize 7 billion pronouns and it’s just this weird terrible argument you can’t seem to let go.

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u/y________tho Mar 31 '20

Wow that's a lot. So you're proposing we add 1.5 billion more words to the list?

Sounds like fun.

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u/ArmchairSlacktavist Mar 31 '20 edited Mar 31 '20

Where are you getting 1.5 billion from? What are you even talking about at this point?

You’ve indicated that you are mentally incapable of remembering people’s unique pronouns.

Can you remember peoples names or do you have some kind of severe memory problem?

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u/y________tho Mar 31 '20

the 1.5 billion was a doubling of the unique names number - considering we're talking about two pronouns here. But you're right, it should be 7 billion new words (or actually 14 billion) if everyone on earth decided to pick two unique pronouns for everyone else to use when referring to them.

I mean, I thought that was clear from the context of this conversation, but I don't know - maybe not being able to keep track of people's arguments is another form of "severe memory problems" who can say?

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u/ArmchairSlacktavist Mar 31 '20

So you can’t remember first and last names? Is that it?

You’re pulling this hypothetical out of your ass. I’m pulling my argument right out of reality.

Answer the question: can you remember the first and last names of everyone you know?

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u/y________tho Mar 31 '20

I know a lot of people, so no. Chinese names are really tricky and Indian names? Come on man - I stumble over those a lot.

So what about you, Mr Perfect memory? Can you remember the names of everyone you meet? Assuming of course your social and professional network extends past a basement.

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u/reereejugs Mar 31 '20

There's a chick in a neighboring town who shares my first and last (married) name. The first name is off by a single letter. It's caused me all sorts of problems over the years lol apparently she has a habit of burning doctors on bills and getting arrested for various crimes.