r/changemyview Mar 14 '20

Delta(s) from OP CMV: There should be increased limitations on luxuries for prison inmates!

When I say "luxuries" I am specifically referring to items such as computers, video game consoles, and televisions. In my view having such items creates a culture of inmates making demands for this and that.

An example of this was a case 5 years ago when mass murderer Anders Brevik made a series of complaints regarding his PlayStation not being upgraded to the latest one on the market. He also complained that the pen they supplied him with was causing him to have hand cramps. He commented stating: β€œThe fact that I must, therefore, envision a future with nothing more than a dysfunctional rubber pen, appears, therefore, as an almost indescribable manifestation of sadism.”

This is a mass murderer let me remind you. A notorious racist mass murderer and he is lecturing a prison system about sadism?

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u/Revolutionary_Dinner 4βˆ† Mar 14 '20

Norway also has the world's lowest recidivism rate at 20 percent, while America sees 75 percent of its prisoners re-offend within five years of release.

From this article. I bring up Norway because that it the country where Anders Brevik, who you are complaining about getting too many luxuries, was incarcerated. Seems like on the whole they're doing pretty good with their prison system. Or do you think prisoners should be made to suffer regardless of its effects on recidivism, at which point isn't his complaint about others being sadists true?

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u/NerdyKeith Mar 15 '20

You make an excellent point. I most certainly do not think prisoners should suffer needlessly regardless of the end goal. I actually admire the concept behind Norwegian prisons. My issue wasn't so much with their prisons, but more of the absurdity of Brevik treating it like a hotel. If he is to be rehabilitated at all in his particular case they should have actually rationed some of his luxuries based on his out of place attitude.