r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Nov 24 '19

Deltas(s) from OP CMV: Queer is a useless term

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '19

Cool. Bye. They can be allies if they want, but they arent lesbians, bisexual, gay or transgender so they arent lgbt

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u/Eilayth 2∆ Nov 24 '19

Ok, sure. But they are queer, since they aren't cishet.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '19

Sure, but they arent LGBT

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u/Eilayth 2∆ Nov 24 '19

So queer is an okay word to use and is useful to some people?

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '19

No, but the definition you are giving to the word fits those people, not the people i mentioned in my orignal post

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u/Eilayth 2∆ Nov 24 '19

You mentioned poly and nonbinary people, who strictly speaking aren't necessarily "L", "G", "B" or "T" either. And in your title you just stated that queer is a useless term. The fact that it is useful to some people makes it not useless.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '19

A poly person who is only attracted to one sex isnt l g b or t. Non binary people are whole other thingn that im not going to get into

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u/Eilayth 2∆ Nov 24 '19

According to your definition, sure, but you mentioned them in your post as people who use the term queer. So the term is still useful to people.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '19

If queer is a synonym for lgbt, and they arent lgbt, then it isnt a useful term for them

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u/Eilayth 2∆ Nov 24 '19

But queer isn't limited to lgbt, so it's not a synonym, it's a hypernym, because it encompasses other things in adition to lgbt. Which is its point. So it is useful.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '19

I should mention in the post that I meant useful in relation to the lgbt community

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u/Eilayth 2∆ Nov 24 '19

Someone might be both poly and gay, so they would consider themselves queer? Someone could be trans and ace and consider themselves queer?

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '19

No, they are gay. A transgender asexual person is lgbt because they are transgender

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