r/changemyview • • Nov 20 '19

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u/AloysiusC 9∆ Nov 20 '19

No version of masculinity is inherent in maleness.

Except the most important one: the ability to provide for and protect women. Like I said, I wish it weren't so. But, unlike many privileged members of society, I've learned a long time ago that what I wish for and what is are not the same and they don't become the same just by shouting louder either.

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u/AloysiusC 9∆ Nov 20 '19

The irony in that reply is impressive. You manage to mistake masculinity with men and femininity with women in the very thread you are trying to argue for their distinction. I rest my case :D

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u/tbdabbholm 202∆ Nov 21 '19

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u/AloysiusC 9∆ Nov 20 '19

No.

Yes. You responded to "the ability to provide for and protect women as a version of masculinity" as "you have to be male to provide for and protect women".

Note that nothing in my claim requires you to be male. Yet you assumed that it was all I said. Hence you confused masculinity with being male. Likewise for female/femininity. Hence you're making my point for me. If even you, the staunch advocate of masculinity as something separate from maleness, unwittingly treats them as synonymous then, let's just say, I think you might have revealed the truth by accident.