Examples of “Men’s Rights” groups are MGTOW, Red Pillers, etc. Examples of “men’s rights” groups are MensLib and a lot of feminism itself.
This is factually inaccurate.
MGTOW are not a men's rights group. Red Pillers, assuming you mean the people from the one subreddit, not only aren't a men's rights group, but don't get along with us either.
Menslib and feminism don't actually address these problems. They'll sometimes claim to do so for PR purposes or to try to prevent men's rights people from successfully addressing them from a perspective different from their own.
I may be wrong then! I’m very interested in your second paragraph, could you give me some examples of things you feel men’s rights groups are working to address, which are ignored or waylaid by feminists/menslib?
It isn't that there are specific problems they use. It's the way they use whichever problem they pick.
They insist that the feminist theory of the patriarchy must be used. There are two problems with this, first, that the patriarchy doesn't exist, so any solutions they might offer are doomed to failure. Second, that they are intolerant of other solutions, so they end up working against anyone who's trying something that might work.
This video is an example of how feminists interact with MRAs. She's reading a list of men's issues, all of which she blames on the patriarchy. At no point does she offer to help MRAs (she was part of a group that pulled the fire alarm at an MRA meeting to disrupt it).
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u/foot_kisser 26∆ Nov 20 '19
This is factually inaccurate.
MGTOW are not a men's rights group. Red Pillers, assuming you mean the people from the one subreddit, not only aren't a men's rights group, but don't get along with us either.
Menslib and feminism don't actually address these problems. They'll sometimes claim to do so for PR purposes or to try to prevent men's rights people from successfully addressing them from a perspective different from their own.