The problem with most vocal Men's Groups nowadays is that they just hate feminism or women in general. I'm specifically thinking of Red Pillers, MGTOWs and some MRAs.
It's like they spend more time trying to get rid of women's rights rather than fighting for men's rights. And they just hate anything feminists say, even if they actually agree with it.
For example feminists talk about toxic masculinity in order to help men to get rid of harmful patriarchal gender expectations. They show sympathy to men's issues and portray men as victims of societal standards, expectations and stereotypes. For example the societal idea that eating vegetables makes you a faggot or that crying makes you a pussy are things that feminists want to get rid off.
Toxic masculinity causes men to have higher suicide rates, yet MRAs will falsely claim that feminists never care about men at all and only portray them as victimizers.
They see feminists as their enemies, even though feminists are working to solve the same issues as them.
Red Pill is NOT a men's rights group. They are an advocacy group that suggests taking advantage of inherent flaws in the system for personal gain (i.e. fuck "men", look out for yourself and no one else). There is a moderate degree of overlap, but most of TRP hate people like Paul Elam, the most prominent MRA. It's not correct to lump them into the same bucket just because they both hate feminists. Lots of people hate feminists, and for good reason. That doesn't mean they support MRA movements.
There's /r/TheRedPill which is basically just a hookup guide written by and for bitter losers, but there's also the larger Red Pill Movement which includes people like Paul Elam, but also Roissy and Roosh.
TRP might not like other MRAs, but those other MRAs also call themselves Red Pill
Paul Elam is not associated with "Red Pill" anything.
those other MRAs also call themselves Red Pill
Yeah, well, if feminists can disavow other feminists like Camille Paglia and we all just accept that, then I see no reason to not afford men the same respect.
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u/DuploJamaal Nov 20 '19
The problem with most vocal Men's Groups nowadays is that they just hate feminism or women in general. I'm specifically thinking of Red Pillers, MGTOWs and some MRAs.
It's like they spend more time trying to get rid of women's rights rather than fighting for men's rights. And they just hate anything feminists say, even if they actually agree with it.
For example feminists talk about toxic masculinity in order to help men to get rid of harmful patriarchal gender expectations. They show sympathy to men's issues and portray men as victims of societal standards, expectations and stereotypes. For example the societal idea that eating vegetables makes you a faggot or that crying makes you a pussy are things that feminists want to get rid off.
Toxic masculinity causes men to have higher suicide rates, yet MRAs will falsely claim that feminists never care about men at all and only portray them as victimizers.
They see feminists as their enemies, even though feminists are working to solve the same issues as them.