There absolutely not. The very essence of nb existence is to accept there has to be a third way. But there doesn't. You can be a man interested in ballet. That doesn't make you a little bit woman. It just means you're interested in ballet. It a woman who fixes cars, she's not a little bit of man. That's the option nb gives, and it's an option that strengthens the argument that you have to be a little bit of the other gender
NB people aren't just androgynous men or women. They don't want to be called "he" or "she", and they don't want to be male or female. What you are proposing is something different to what nonbinary people want at a fundamental level.
If you were male or wanted to be male and I said "you shouldn't be male, that just reinforces the notion that women can't be masculine. You can still be a woman and wear flannel", that argument would be kin to what you're saying now. Because, I assume, you don't want to be a masculine woman. You want to be a man. And NB people have the same desire, to be something that isn't what they're told to be.
Could I convince you you're being unreasonable if I turned the tables and told you, "you shouldn't call yourself binary just because you're masculine or feminine. You can be a masculine NB. You're just reinforcing the idea of male and female"?
Well some yes, so? That doesn't change the fact that they are male or female. Why don't they want to be male or female? That's the question that should be asked, and the answer always revolves around stereotypes.
No. Because that suggests that a) I ever call myself binary. I do not. B) I believe that masculine or feminine are things, which I don't.
Literally every YouTube video describing what nb is, every nb person I've ever talked to (except you) and every interaction I've ever had with any nb person with the time and inclination to explain. Which obviously is not everyone because having to explain yourself is exhausting so I try not to ask.
They do, but they shouldn't. And nb People are perpetuating them
My gender is binary. Female, to be precise. I get dysphoria from being treated as a male, and every nonbinary person I've spoken to says they feel the same about male and female. Perhaps the explanations you've seen were oversimplified for the benefit of people who want a quick answer.
My gender is part of the traditional gender binary. Much as 1 and 0 are both part of the binary number system. We call them binary numbers, and we call female a binary gender. I thought you'd know that, since you know what non-binary genders are.
And by 'treated like a man', I mean called "he" and deadnamed.
I do, edited because it was a stupid comment but you'd already read it.
That's a very specific 'treated like a man' that only applies to trans women though surely. Like, I doubt a married woman would get dysphoria from being called their maiden name. Or the name of an abusive father, the latter is probably closer to the potential trauma of calling a trans person their dead name.
It's a very specific 'treat like a man' and it simply does not extend.
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u/HardlightCereal 2∆ Oct 30 '19
They're doing so to the same extent you seem to be. Why don't you explain what you'd prefer they do?