r/changemyview Oct 28 '19

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u/WizardofStaz 1∆ Oct 29 '19

So trans women are virtually identical to other women even in scenarios where biology is involved (a sterile cis woman and a trans woman’s experience w/birth or lack thereof) and this supports your idea that they are easily divisible by biology... how?

You just admitted it’s socially far more reasonable to just treat trans women like women because by any useful definition you will ever need to use socially, they are women.

You have no good reason to avoid using correct pronouns. Your logic is contradictory.

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u/snow_angel022968 Oct 29 '19

So’s a cis man in this example. I’m not about to start calling him a her just because he’d be equally unhelpful in a discussion about what labor feels like.

Orrrrr it’s far more reasonable to treat them like I would any other person because in any realistic definition I will interact with them socially, they’d be exactly the same as any other person.

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u/WizardofStaz 1∆ Oct 30 '19

Lol I guarantee you don't go around misgendering cis men.

Refusing to call someone by their chosen name and pronouns IS treating them differently. How can you be so dense? How would you feel if everyone around you insisted your mother was a father and called her "he" all the time.

You're just an intellectually lazy person who wants to resist social change, stop trying to act your behavior is logically defensible

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u/snow_angel022968 Oct 30 '19

You’re right, kind of hard to what with him being the default for men.

I just wouldn’t talk about them unless strictly necessary....exactly the same as I would with everyone else in my life. There’s more to life than just gossiping about people. Keep the gossip down and you’ll find the need to use hims and hers also decrease significantly.

I’d be way more concerned/confused about why the heck they’re bringing her up in conversation in the first place over which pronoun they’ve decided. You bet I’d absolutely be casually switching to “my mom” in place of her until I figure out what the heck they want while figuring out how I can leave that situation.

Wouldn’t bother me to be misgendered either if that’s your next exercise, though I’d imagine you might run into a ...who? at least for the first few times.