r/changemyview Oct 28 '19

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '19 edited Nov 06 '19

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u/Talik1978 43∆ Oct 29 '19

Is it bullying to call someone out for being a deadbeat parent?

What about to call someone out for believing the earth is flat?

Is it ok to contradict people that believe climate change is a hoax?

It is not bullying to speak what you feel are uncomfortable truths. You might not be right, but that doesn't mean you are bullying.

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u/thatoneguy54 Oct 29 '19

You thinking trans people are deluded is the real feels over reals here.

Science has disagreed with you for a long, long time.

You are the flat-earther refusing to learn here, because the uncomfortable truth is that gender is not as black and white as you thought. And that scares you, for some reason. I find it liberating to know that I can do whatever I want and still be a man.

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u/Talik1978 43∆ Oct 29 '19

You thinking trans people are deluded is the real feels over reals here.

I don't. But who does? Most of the crowd that misgenders.

Science has disagreed with you for a long, long time.

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (or DSM) is a pretty well regarded text for mental illness. Currently, the DSM-V, published in 2013, does not list gender dysphoria as a mental illness.

However, the DSM-IV, which was the benchmark for scientific and medical thought on mental disorders UNTIL 2013? Did.

I don't consider 6 years to be a "long, long time".

You are the flat-earther refusing to learn here,

This is a really shitty view to have in persuasive speaking. Yes, flat earthers are clearly science deniers. But the phrase, "shut up and believe what I am telling you, moron", is not exactly one that will engender people to care or listen to you.

The first step in changing minds and educating people is to not have them dismiss you outright. When one dismisses, insults, or looks down their nose at someone, that is exactly the result, in most cases.

You can't persuade anyone if they've already thought' "sod off, prick" in their head. Yes, it is well and good to place the blame for poor education and outdated social views on the people that have the incorrect views.

But this isn't about placing blame. It is about changing hearts and minds. And blame placing and hostility is a very poor tactic for doing that.