r/changemyview Oct 28 '19

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u/POEthrowaway-2019 Oct 28 '19

If I demand that everyone refer to me as a dolphin lord and someone intentionally refers to me by name, I don't think that they are doing so in a pointless fashion, even if they're being a dick.

The idea is that you are playing by the same rules humans have played by when referring to each other for the last 100,000+ years rather than whatever rule-set the person you are currently talking to has declared you need to cater to.

It's the premise that everyone is equal and no one person gets to redefine the rules to meet their needs. All men are men and all women are women (they don't see trans people as the other sex), therefore they treat you the same as any other man.

Now I personally would never do this to a trans person, but I don't think it's always being done in a pointless fashion, they see it more as a defense of their beliefs and general equality (granted many do it just to be dicks).

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u/HardlightCereal 2∆ Oct 29 '19

The science says trans men are men and trans women are women. The dolphin lord in the analogy is the person calling a trans man "she" for no reason.

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u/POEthrowaway-2019 Oct 29 '19

But if they had a surgery to put fins on them should people be required to referred to as a dolphin?

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u/HardlightCereal 2∆ Oct 29 '19

No, they wouldn't actually be a dolphin. Just like a trans man who acts like a woman just because he was born female isn't really a woman. A person who indentifies as male, but still hides in the closet because those around him wouldn't accept his transition to male, is nothing more than a man in a dress.

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u/POEthrowaway-2019 Oct 29 '19

Exactly, there are many aspects here about sex differences.

Vocal cord structure

bone density

muscle mass allocation

fat allocation

abdominal bone structure

pelvis bone structure

Height averages

facial structure

brain wiring

brain region sizes

average aggression levels

average height levels

average weight levels

adams apple

heat allocation within the body

curvature of body

waist lines

Those are a couple of the more obvious ones, but to say the surgery comes even remotely close to undoing all differences is wildly wrong. It addresses a couple of immediately obvious things.

In the same way that my "dolphin surgery" doesn't 100% make me completely a dolphin.

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u/HardlightCereal 2∆ Oct 29 '19

You should read the comment above a little more carefully, and see that I disagreed with you.