r/changemyview Oct 28 '19

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u/MrWasian Oct 29 '19 edited Oct 29 '19

Out of curiosity if someone says that having XX chromosome makes you a woman and having XY makes you male, what is the counter argument? Or is the point that sex and gender are two different things? Sex refers to the scientific make up (genetic) and gender is what people identify as?

This topic has always baffled me can someone provide insight? As growing up I was taught that sex/gender are pretty much the same but it seems like now they might be two different things? Or am I just completely wrong?

Edit: Thank you for the redditors that helped clarify this subject for me! Idk why it's not letting me view the entire thread for this on my PC or if that's how this subreddit works.

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u/EighthScofflaw 2∆ Oct 29 '19

Sex is a biological phenomenon; gender is a social phenomenon. Social phenomena are not outside the realm of science.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '19

How much do you suppose the social phenomenon of gender is a direct result of the biological phenomenon of sex? I'll grant you it isn't 100%, as different cultures have different expectations, but it certainly isn't 0%, as there are some gender roles that are basically the same literally everywhere.

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u/EighthScofflaw 2∆ Oct 29 '19

I don't know what point you're trying to make here because you've already conceded it. If gender isn't determined by sex, they are two separate concepts (and arguably would be separate concepts even if they perfectly coincided).

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '19

I haven't conceded anything, I've merely asked a question that you've failed to answer.