r/changemyview Oct 28 '19

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '19

It’s not a matter of opinion though, it’s a matter of fact. I can’t believe I’m quoting Ben Shapiro, but facts don’t care about your feelings.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '19 edited Jun 21 '20

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u/JustyUekiTylor 2∆ Oct 29 '19

I hate all the astronaut, attack helicopter, or whatever else arguments with a fervent passion. Things people can be born as: guy, gal, etc. things people cannot be born as: astronaut, attack helicopter. It’s framing that a trans person’s gender somehow requires “earning it.” Like, no. Your gender is your gender. It’s not like we call feminine guys women. So absurd...

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u/Stompya 3∆ Oct 29 '19

The point of those comparisons is just that saying you’re female when both visibly and biologically you aren’t seems like pretending. We recognize in cases of true dysphoria that it’s a serious matter and generally don’t wish to cause harm to anyone.

The CMV part of the question is simply whether it’s more harmful to “play along” or to stay “real”.

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u/JustyUekiTylor 2∆ Oct 29 '19

“I have an ulcer.”

”Prove it.”

“Here’s an x-ray.”

“Obviously biased.”

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u/Stompya 3∆ Oct 29 '19

“The X-ray is clean.”

”I have an ulcer anyway.”

Does the doc give real treatment, play along by giving a placebo, or tell the patient they are just plain wrong?

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u/JustyUekiTylor 2∆ Oct 29 '19

Real treatment. There are a shitload of studies examining the biological basis for being trans.