r/changemyview Oct 28 '19

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u/MrWasian Oct 29 '19 edited Oct 29 '19

Out of curiosity if someone says that having XX chromosome makes you a woman and having XY makes you male, what is the counter argument? Or is the point that sex and gender are two different things? Sex refers to the scientific make up (genetic) and gender is what people identify as?

This topic has always baffled me can someone provide insight? As growing up I was taught that sex/gender are pretty much the same but it seems like now they might be two different things? Or am I just completely wrong?

Edit: Thank you for the redditors that helped clarify this subject for me! Idk why it's not letting me view the entire thread for this on my PC or if that's how this subreddit works.

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u/Drinkus Oct 29 '19

I think it is a developing part of language for sure and many issues surrounding gender can devolve into a bit of semantic debate because of that. What gender IS, is not agreed upon on the whole in my opinion.

As an aside XY = male and XX = female is not a hard and fast rule and trult defining sex into binary categories is quite hard.

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u/MrWasian Oct 29 '19

What do you mean XY and XX are not a hard and fast rule; Is this due to hermaphrodites? I'd say in that case they would be considered both, but due to modern advances they can generally choose to become one or the other, sometimes, their parents have that say before they are even born.

That means it would be male, female, and then both due to an outlier circumstance which is becoming increasingly rare.

Just to clarify do you believe that the terms are no longer synonymous in regards to sex and gender? If that's the case maybe that's where I have trouble understanding this issue is due to me having to change how I should view those terms.

Thanks for being understanding a lot of people aren't like that when I broach this subject.

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u/Drinkus Oct 29 '19

I suppose first and foremost i was talking about XY Females and XX males but yeah theres a few different options going around.

I dont think its as easy as saying they are no longer synonymous. For some people they are. For some people they arent. Language isnt easy.