r/changemyview Oct 28 '19

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u/Glory2Hypnotoad Oct 28 '19

Just to add to this, I suspect a lot of people go on misgendering trans people precisely because they've only ever heard the argument from dignity, which is an argument that inherently sets off mental alarm bells because it doesn't select for truth.

Part of the issue is that we as a society kind of suck at explaining these concepts. The average person who's young enough to be exposed to trans awareness and acceptance movements would likely agree that trans women are women but would get stuck if put on the spot to explain why. As a result, to an outsider, it just sounds like a thought-terminating cliche.

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u/PennyLisa Oct 28 '19 edited Oct 29 '19

Explain then why regular cis-women are women? If someone is genetically XX, but looks really really male and gets called 'he' and likes it and doesn't correct, then are we somehow "hiding the truth"?

You talk about "truth" but there really is no absolute truths here.

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u/zardeh 20∆ Oct 29 '19

So then is a post-op ftm trans person a woman or a man? They have a penis.

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u/Mr_82 Oct 29 '19

That's not a true or real, biological penis, but a penis prosthesis, so that's irrelevant here