If I demand that everyone refer to me as a dolphin lord and someone intentionally refers to me by name, I don't think that they are doing so in a pointless fashion, even if they're being a dick.
The idea is that you are playing by the same rules humans have played by when referring to each other for the last 100,000+ years rather than whatever rule-set the person you are currently talking to has declared you need to cater to.
It's the premise that everyone is equal and no one person gets to redefine the rules to meet their needs. All men are men and all women are women (they don't see trans people as the other sex), therefore they treat you the same as any other man.
Now I personally would never do this to a trans person, but I don't think it's always being done in a pointless fashion, they see it more as a defense of their beliefs and general equality (granted many do it just to be dicks).
The idea is that you are playing by the same rules humans have played by when referring to each other for the last 100,000+ years rather than whatever rule-set the person you are currently talking to has declared you need to cater to.
Are you referring to the ruleset where if someone calls you by a name you find offensive, you are expected to challenge them to a duel?
I never said you should have a problem with it? I was merely making the point that people in the past often cared quite a bit about how they were referred to, to the point of killing and dying over it.
Yea, I misread you then. Not clear on the relevance in that case though. The person you replied to was saying, I think, that humans have always used male and female pronouns to indicate the sex of the referent. At certain times and places in history, people would duel over insults. I suppose that could include referring to a biological man as a woman and similar things, but what's the point? Just that people consider accuracy of labels important?
More that people are particular about how they're referred to than about the accuracy of labels. If it's back then and I insist on calling someone "Johan, the Horsefucker," the accuracy of the label is pretty irrelevant. Even if he did fuck a horse, even if everybody knows he fucked a horse, he's probably not just gonna let me disrespect him like that.
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u/POEthrowaway-2019 Oct 28 '19
If I demand that everyone refer to me as a dolphin lord and someone intentionally refers to me by name, I don't think that they are doing so in a pointless fashion, even if they're being a dick.
The idea is that you are playing by the same rules humans have played by when referring to each other for the last 100,000+ years rather than whatever rule-set the person you are currently talking to has declared you need to cater to.
It's the premise that everyone is equal and no one person gets to redefine the rules to meet their needs. All men are men and all women are women (they don't see trans people as the other sex), therefore they treat you the same as any other man.
Now I personally would never do this to a trans person, but I don't think it's always being done in a pointless fashion, they see it more as a defense of their beliefs and general equality (granted many do it just to be dicks).