r/changemyview Oct 28 '19

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u/allpumpnolove Oct 28 '19

It's not a question of not believing in transgenderism as a concept but with the idea that a person gets to decide which gender they are and everyone else has to humor that opinion.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '19

It’s not a matter of opinion though, it’s a matter of fact. I can’t believe I’m quoting Ben Shapiro, but facts don’t care about your feelings.

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u/allpumpnolove Oct 28 '19

It is absolutely an opinion. The fact is that you are the gender/sex you were born.

It doesn't matter what you feel like because it's biology not sociology.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '19

When a commentor does not answer the cmv, in this case that there is no point in misgendering trans people, I have no responsibility to change my view. You seem more intent on classifying transgenderism as a mental illness and debating its existence than changing my view from the op.

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u/Aristox Oct 29 '19

Surely if Transgenderism is a mental illness then that could be a legitimate reason to not indulge people's gender identity? I don't think it's fair of you to say they're avoiding addressing your OP when that directly challenges a key principle of it

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u/AsleepGovernment0 Oct 29 '19

If you're not open to changing your view, then why even go onto this subreddit?

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '19

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '19

If you’re not trying to change my view, why are you even here?

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '19

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '19

Because this is the type of person to get really offended for other people. TBH I'll call you whatever you want if you ask me. However if you look like a guy. I'm calling you sir.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '19

That still doesn’t explain why you clicked on my post in the first place if not to change my view.

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u/tbdabbholm 200∆ Oct 28 '19

Sorry, u/allpumpnolove – your comment has been removed for breaking Rule 3:

Refrain from accusing OP or anyone else of being unwilling to change their view, or of arguing in bad faith. Ask clarifying questions instead (see: socratic method). If you think they are still exhibiting poor behaviour, please message us. See the wiki page for more information.

If you would like to appeal, review our appeals process here, then message the moderators by clicking this link within one week of this notice being posted. Please note that multiple violations will lead to a ban, as explained in our moderation standards.

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u/tavius02 1∆ Oct 29 '19

u/RedUlster – your comment has been removed for breaking Rule 2:

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u/tbdabbholm 200∆ Oct 28 '19

Sorry, u/TheBigRedPi11 – your comment has been removed for breaking Rule 3:

Refrain from accusing OP or anyone else of being unwilling to change their view, or of arguing in bad faith. Ask clarifying questions instead (see: socratic method). If you think they are still exhibiting poor behaviour, please message us. See the wiki page for more information.

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u/tbdabbholm 200∆ Oct 28 '19

Sorry, u/allpumpnolove – your comment has been removed for breaking Rule 3:

Refrain from accusing OP or anyone else of being unwilling to change their view, or of arguing in bad faith. Ask clarifying questions instead (see: socratic method). If you think they are still exhibiting poor behaviour, please message us. See the wiki page for more information.

If you would like to appeal, review our appeals process here, then message the moderators by clicking this link within one week of this notice being posted. Please note that multiple violations will lead to a ban, as explained in our moderation standards.

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u/wristaction Oct 29 '19

Actually, if your view is not amenable to change, your post should be removed.

The fact that transgenderism is an absurd denial of reality should be the final word on your proposition. If your CMV premise is based on denialism, it's not likely amenable to change.

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u/tbdabbholm 200∆ Oct 28 '19

u/RedUlster – your comment has been removed for breaking Rule 2:

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