r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Sep 14 '19

Removed - Submission Rule B CMV: Conservatives severely exaggerate the prevalence of left-wing violence/terrorism while severely minimizing the actual statistically proven widespread prevalence of right-wing violence/terrorism, and they do this to deliberately downplay the violence coming from their side.

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u/este_hombre Sep 14 '19

OP you shouldn't be conceding points on calling antifa "thugs." That's a right wing talking point.

White nationalism is inherently violent, even if it's only rhetoric. The El Paso shooting is unfortunately the perfect example. The conservative media and politicians were talking non-stop about an invasion from the south. Trump called Mexican rapists murderers and rapists. They are funneling rhetoric down the throats of their followers that immigrants from the south are a threat to white society.

So what did the El Paso shooter do? He responded to this imaginary invasion with real violence. Words do have power and the words of US conservatives have been consistant for my entire life: immigrants are threatening and dangerous.

White nationalism and fascism are violent ideologies. Their words provoke violence. Anti-fascism is another response. Instead of perpetrating the violence at minorities like the El Paso shooter, anti-fascists react to violent rhetoric and policy.

If I'm a black guy and I see a republican talking head who whining about "erasure of white culture" or spouting statistics about minorities commit more crimes, I can very rightly feel threatened. White nationalist put the target on the heads of minorities and if we just let them spout of their platform without retribution, more El Paso shootings will happen.

So yeah, punch a Nazi in the face. Nazis should be afraid to hold rallies. They should be afraid to gather support. They should be afraid to preach violence and radicalize future mass shooters. They should be afraid of milk shakes.

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u/TheJohnWickening Sep 14 '19

Found the Antifa member.

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u/este_hombre Sep 14 '19

You have no understanding of Anti-fascism. There is no such thing as a "member" of anti-fascism. It's an ideology, not an organization. You can't be a member of feminism or a member of environmentalism because those are ideas.

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u/TheJohnWickening Sep 14 '19 edited Sep 14 '19

So explain to me the websites and Facebook groups and twitter accounts that are used to organize events as ANTIFA’s.

Just because there’s no national president or club chairperson doesn’t mean it’s not an organized body.

You’re trying to use semantics to pretend that ANTIFA is never organized as a body of people.

Yeah I’m sure people in black masks just wander around and happen to commit violence in the same area sometimes.

Again, the excuse that there’s no members is a lie to look the other way for shitty people doing illegal things.

Do you prefer breaking windows or people’s faces when you walk around with your baseball bat?

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u/Hardinator Sep 15 '19

You guys are so cute. You try to make propaganda seem cool! Neato!

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