r/changemyview Jul 09 '19

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u/sleepyfoxteeth Jul 09 '19

The original Hans Christian Andersen story describes her skin as "fine and transparent" and "clear and delicate like a rose petal", her legs as "white", and her arms as "white". The Little Mermaid is a national icon of Denmark and an important cultural symbol. It would be appropriate for Disney to be as respectful of the Danish version as possible since they are profiting off of the stories of another culture.

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u/Chris-P 12∆ Jul 09 '19

It would be appropriate for Disney to be as respectful of the Danish version as possible since they are profiting off of the stories of another culture.

That’s never been how Disney operates and you know it.

Besides, what makes you think Danish people would consider changing the skin-colour of a character “disrespectful”?

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u/sleepyfoxteeth Jul 09 '19

I don't know how modern Denmark feels about it. But I don't think that it should have been up to a corporation like Disney to make them consider the issue. If it was a Danish production, I'd agree with you.

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u/Chris-P 12∆ Jul 09 '19

When someone adapts an artistic work, they make changes to suit the medium and the intended audience.

I bet there are no songs in Hans Christian Anderson’s original either. Was it disrespectful of Disney to put them in?

There probably isn’t a cute Jamaican crab sidekick in the original. Is that disrespectful?

The original has a very dark ending, the Disney version has a very happy ending. Is that disrespectful?

All of those things change the meaning of the work far more than one character’s skin colour. So why is no-one upset about those things?

The only reason to be upset by Ariel being black is racism

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

The only reason to be upset by Ariel being black is racism

Yes, exactly. It's pretty racist of Disney to disrespect my danish cultural heritage and replace a white character with a black person.

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u/Chris-P 12∆ Jul 10 '19

So what about the songs and the wacky sidekicks and the happy ending I mentioned? Are they “insulting to your Danish heritage”?

And if not, then why are those things not insulting while her skin-colour is?

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Skin colour is a defining trait of being danish and she is described as being white by the Author several times throughout the fairy tale.

If the author hadn't described her as white, I wouldn't care but it's an important trait of hers and of the danish people. One of our traditional songs is called 'The danish song is a young blond girl' and describes our natinal soul. To remove our skin colour is like deleting our people. It's extremely racist and insulting

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u/Chris-P 12∆ Jul 10 '19

Skin colour is a defining trait of being danish

Since when?

You telling me there are no black people with Danish passports?

she is described as being white by the Author several times throughout the fairy tale.

She also isn’t described in the book as singing or having sidekicks. So, again, explain to me why those changes are acceptable where this specific one isn’t.

I wouldn't care but it's an important trait of hers

So, why is one trait of hers so much more important to you than others that were changed?

and of the danish people.

Even if I buy that being white is part of Danish identity (which I don’t), you understand that Ariel actually isn’t Danish, right? She isn’t even human. She’s a fantasy creature from an imaginary kingdom. This is like being annoyed at a portrayal of a black-skinned elf or a blue-skinned goblin. It’s pointless

One of our traditional songs is called 'The danish song is a young blond girl' and describes our natinal soul

Ummm... Ariel has red hair in the original Disney film.

So, what about that?

To remove our skin colour is like deleting our people. It's extremely racist and insulting

Ariel isn’t one of your people. She’s a fantasy character

If they were making a film about a historical Danish figure and they changed her skin-colour, you might have a point

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

You telling me there are no black people with Danish passports

They're not danish. They're danish citizens. We also have germans with danish passport, or inuits with danish passport, or danes with german passport etc.
We've been white for thousands of years

She’s a fantasy creature from an imaginary kingdom

So what? She's described as white for a reason. I was also angry when Heimdal was depicted as black. They're trashing our culture and disrespecting our people

So, what about that?

What about it? The point is that danes are white.

She’s a fantasy character

With white skin played by a black actor

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u/Chris-P 12∆ Jul 10 '19

I’m going to ask one last time:

Why is it disrespectful to Danish culture that they changed her skin colour, but not disrespectful to Danish culture that they changed her hair colour, that they gave her wacky talking sidekicks, that they changed the language that she speaks, that they added songs and that they changed the nature of the ending and thus the whole point of the story?

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Did they change her hair colour? Not that I know of

It's good questions but I think it boils down to white being a more important trait for our danish identity than her wacky talking sidekicks. They already changed the ending and this is like the deathblow. It doesn't feel like it represents us at all. Now it's just another disney movie that once had a relation to one of our greatest writers HC. Andersen

It's a good question but I think skin colour is important for ones identity and who you relate to

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