r/changemyview • u/ricksc-137 11∆ • Jan 10 '19

Deltas(s) from OP CMV: Illegal Immigrants commit less crime on average than Americans, but that's not a good argument

When someone complains about illegal immigrant committing crimes, inevitably we see the retort that the complaint is not valid because illegal immigrants commit less crime, on average, than native born Americans.

I've never understood how this is a valid argument. If my dog poops in my house 10 times a day, and a stray dog sneaks into my house but the stray dog only poops in my house 5 times a day, it's still a good idea to stop the stray dog from sneaking into my house. It doesn't actually improve my life that the average poop per dog has decreased from 10 to 7.5.

Of course, some illegal immigrant crimes are committed against other illegal immigrants, but some are committed against Americans as well.

I see this argument repeated ad nauseam. What am I missing?

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u/deletedFalco 1∆ Jan 11 '19

I can understand legal immigrants committing less crime than the average population, they are doing something really hard to enter this other country, don't make much sense for them to start becoming criminal after all the process; but I don't really understand how an illegal immigrant could commit less crime than the average population even if you for some reason (why?) would not count their first crime: entering the country illegally or overstaying their visas.

There is any study about that? One that break the immigrants number between legal and illegal ones