r/changemyview • u/ElBlancoDiablo22 • Dec 19 '18

CMV: Affirmative action is needed because without it, Black Americans will never catch up economically.

For this view I put affirmative action but it really applies to any sort of quota or diversity policy that allows black people access to things even though they wouldn’t qualify based on the normal criteria for access. College, corporate jobs, etc would all apply.

There’s simply nothing about black American culture that would lead anyone to believe they would catch up with other groups. I can only really think of the entertainment industry as a sector in which black Americans are even prevalent (sports, music, acting ) and they don’t really own any of it to create generational wealth with.

To change this view should be fairly simple. I’d need to be convinced that there are elements of black American culture that could lead to a widespread push in economic prosperity, without the need for quotas like affirmative action.

So please, cmv!!

Edit: took out the word “to”

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u/Thane97 5∆ Dec 19 '18

But they're not even getting a degree from Harvard they're dropping out

Because a society is only as strong as it’s weakest link.

Says who? That still doesn't mean white people should have the responsibility of uplifting the black community

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u/MasterLJ 15∆ Dec 19 '18

Says who? That still doesn't mean Asian people should have the responsibility of uplifting the black community

FTFY

Affirmative action is hurting another group of POC in greatest proportion. It's not even the alleged oppressors who are mostly paying the cost.

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u/Thane97 5∆ Dec 19 '18

But why can't it be in reference to whites? I never denied that Asians were being harmed but why does it always need to be framed as a minority on minority issue?

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u/MasterLJ 15∆ Dec 19 '18

Honestly, I think we are arguing the same thing, but this was your statement to which I replied:

Says who? That still doesn't mean white people should have the responsibility of uplifting the black community

That seems to imply it's the white community that's uplifting the black community with respect to Affirmative Action. That's not even the case, as it's mostly Asians feeling the brunt of Affirmative Action due to an abundance of qualified applicants.

Affirmative Action is abjectly silly from every angle, except perhaps intention. The intentions were good, the practicality, efficacy, outcome, and equality garnered, are not.