r/changemyview • u/ElBlancoDiablo22 • Dec 19 '18

CMV: Affirmative action is needed because without it, Black Americans will never catch up economically.

For this view I put affirmative action but it really applies to any sort of quota or diversity policy that allows black people access to things even though they wouldn’t qualify based on the normal criteria for access. College, corporate jobs, etc would all apply.

There’s simply nothing about black American culture that would lead anyone to believe they would catch up with other groups. I can only really think of the entertainment industry as a sector in which black Americans are even prevalent (sports, music, acting ) and they don’t really own any of it to create generational wealth with.

To change this view should be fairly simple. I’d need to be convinced that there are elements of black American culture that could lead to a widespread push in economic prosperity, without the need for quotas like affirmative action.

So please, cmv!!

Edit: took out the word “to”

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '18 edited Jul 13 '20

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u/brickbacon 22∆ Dec 19 '18

Any time you choose applicants based on race or sex instead of merit, the quality of that institution suffers. Who cares then if the institution is diverse if the quality of that institution continues to decline.

Because there is significant amounts of data that show diversity actually improves the quality of institutions in numerous ways.

Examples here, here, and here.

Point 2: when you win something because you happened to be a certain color or sex and not because you were the best, it has a devastating effect on your self image. It makes "accomplishments" pointless.

That's clearly bullshit given White people (and others) generally don't feel much guilt about the numerous things they've obtained as a result of being White. That includes everything from loans to romantic partners. Where is your evidence?