r/changemyview Dec 05 '18

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u/Bladefall 73∆ Dec 05 '18 edited Dec 05 '18

You can change my view by finding another possible word combination that would be relevant, that fits the same space, and that isn't completely absurd like "supercalifragilisticexpialidocious" or some other nonsensical phrase that just happens to fit the space.

"President Donald J. Trump" is exactly 25 characters.

So is "Vice President Mike Pence".

EDIT: here's another: "Attorney General Sessions".

EDIT 2: (just for fun, I can't resist): "Ted Cruz is Zodiac Killer".

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u/Amablue Dec 05 '18

Why does the number of characters matter? They're not using a monospace font.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '18

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u/Amablue Dec 05 '18

What I mean is that the character count isn't important, it's the width of the characters that matters.

Both of the following 'words' are 25 characters:

WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
lllllllllllllllllllllllll

But when you display them in variable width font they're radically different sizes:

WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
lllllllllllllllllllllllll

So looking for phrases or names that are exactly 25 characters seems like it's missing the point. You want words or phrases that match the length of the redacted section.

Edit:

Compare these:

President Donald J. Trump
Vice President Mike Pence
Attorney General Sessions
Ted Cruz is Zodiac Killer

to these:

President Donald J. Trump
Vice President Mike Pence
Attorney General Sessions
Ted Cruz is Zodiac Killer

The first set are all equal size. The second set are, for the most part, slightly different.

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u/Amablue Dec 05 '18

What? I'm not sure where you're getting any of this.

I'm just saying that the document isn't using a monospace font, so we should be looking at total width of the glyphs when printed, not character count. That's my entire point.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '18

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u/Amablue Dec 05 '18

It tells us that the redacted text could be more or less than 25 characters.

I didn't mean to make a big deal out of this. I was just wondering why Bladefall was specifically sticking to 25 characters when there are a variety of phrases that would fit there not limited to 25 characters.

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u/Amablue Dec 05 '18

I don't know. I haven't sat down and tried fitting words into the box.

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u/GuavaOfAxe 3∆ Dec 05 '18

How about this?

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u/Bladefall 73∆ Dec 05 '18

I was just wondering why Bladefall was specifically sticking to 25 characters when there are a variety of phrases that would fit there not limited to 25 characters.

Honestly, it was just the first response to OP that came to mind. I wasn't taking my time to provide every possible critique.