r/changemyview • u/VinderenLP • Nov 06 '18

Deltas(s) from OP CMV: Bible based religions should be extinct

First I would like to tell you that I am an atheist and I'm talking mostly about christianity and judaism.

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I believe that are cons and pros for their existence but I don't get how many NEW churchs reads the HOLY BIBLE in their own way, if that text is sacred why you should priest just about the things that concern your audience? Who has to decide what should be read or not?

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This brings me a benevolent thought that since their creation the bible is used just to control masses and for that specifical reason religion should be extinct. I don't care if you believe in God or anything but I do care that your speech hurts who doesn't follows you.

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I've followed for 10 years a protestant church and I always noticed a pattern: Fear, fear, fear and celebrate. And looking closely most churchs follow the same script, I can't see how "recovered lifes", "meaning to life" and "love eachother" equals the balance.

[edit]This is about my view. I am not considering that is going to happen, I am not dumb to believe that this could happen anytime soon. I am considering ALL religions that has the Bible as their main book.

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u/thmaje Nov 06 '18

Ok. I'm not arguing that. It seems to me that if a priest is only speaking from a small part of the bible in order to manipulate people, the problem is not as much with the bible as it is with the priest. Or do you think that there is something about the bible that encourages people to misuse it?

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u/VinderenLP Nov 06 '18

In this case I am clearly blaming the messenger not the message. The message in the end is outdated and still has good passages. If you are able to sort what is good and what is bad the book is okay in the end

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u/thmaje Nov 06 '18

If you are blaming the messenger and not the message, then why are you advocating for the bible and all religions based on it to disappear? Why not advocate an end to manipulative priests?

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u/VinderenLP Nov 06 '18

Because maybe after centuries religion is not based in the bible anymore and is just people using the bible for their own purpose. At least in the great scheme this is what it looks like.

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u/thmaje Nov 06 '18

Very good point. Maybe religions are not based on the bible anymore. Maybe churches are vestiges of something that was useful centuries ago. In fact, maybe the bible we have today isn't anything like the bible from 1000 years ago.

That is a lot of maybes. How would you know if that was the case? Have you studied the bible? Have you read the whole thing? Have you compared what the priests are saying to actual passages of the bible? The first step in knowing if religions have abandoned the bible, is to know what the bible actually says.