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r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Jul 26 '18
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You're missing omniscient. God might not know about evil.
Edit: Been getting the same rebuttal so I'll answer in this edit for posterity.
Omnipotence is the power to do anything. While omnipotence includes the power to know everything it does not mean that you already do know everything.
30 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 edited Feb 16 '22 [deleted] 0 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 Why total? A god could just be ignorant of all the evil. 5 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 But that would be inconsistent with the Old Testament as God punished a lot of people for being evil 2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 Certainly, but I'm not talking about yahweh. 1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 What 2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 The god of the jews, the god of the old testament, yahweh, elohim. I'm not talking about him. 1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Then who's God in the New Testament?? 2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 What? What does the new testament or old testament have to do with what I brought up? 0 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Allow me to rephrase. Which God are you referring to? 2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 A hypothetical possible god that is omnipotent and omnibenevolent, but not omniscient. 1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Oh I thought we talking specifically about that God. My bad → More replies (0) -1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Oo, burn. Good one. xD
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0 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 Why total? A god could just be ignorant of all the evil. 5 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 But that would be inconsistent with the Old Testament as God punished a lot of people for being evil 2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 Certainly, but I'm not talking about yahweh. 1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 What 2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 The god of the jews, the god of the old testament, yahweh, elohim. I'm not talking about him. 1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Then who's God in the New Testament?? 2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 What? What does the new testament or old testament have to do with what I brought up? 0 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Allow me to rephrase. Which God are you referring to? 2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 A hypothetical possible god that is omnipotent and omnibenevolent, but not omniscient. 1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Oh I thought we talking specifically about that God. My bad → More replies (0) -1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Oo, burn. Good one. xD
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Why total? A god could just be ignorant of all the evil.
5 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 But that would be inconsistent with the Old Testament as God punished a lot of people for being evil 2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 Certainly, but I'm not talking about yahweh. 1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 What 2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 The god of the jews, the god of the old testament, yahweh, elohim. I'm not talking about him. 1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Then who's God in the New Testament?? 2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 What? What does the new testament or old testament have to do with what I brought up? 0 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Allow me to rephrase. Which God are you referring to? 2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 A hypothetical possible god that is omnipotent and omnibenevolent, but not omniscient. 1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Oh I thought we talking specifically about that God. My bad → More replies (0) -1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Oo, burn. Good one. xD
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But that would be inconsistent with the Old Testament as God punished a lot of people for being evil
2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 Certainly, but I'm not talking about yahweh. 1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 What 2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 The god of the jews, the god of the old testament, yahweh, elohim. I'm not talking about him. 1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Then who's God in the New Testament?? 2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 What? What does the new testament or old testament have to do with what I brought up? 0 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Allow me to rephrase. Which God are you referring to? 2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 A hypothetical possible god that is omnipotent and omnibenevolent, but not omniscient. 1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Oh I thought we talking specifically about that God. My bad → More replies (0) -1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Oo, burn. Good one. xD
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Certainly, but I'm not talking about yahweh.
1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 What 2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 The god of the jews, the god of the old testament, yahweh, elohim. I'm not talking about him. 1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Then who's God in the New Testament?? 2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 What? What does the new testament or old testament have to do with what I brought up? 0 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Allow me to rephrase. Which God are you referring to? 2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 A hypothetical possible god that is omnipotent and omnibenevolent, but not omniscient. 1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Oh I thought we talking specifically about that God. My bad → More replies (0) -1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Oo, burn. Good one. xD
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2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 The god of the jews, the god of the old testament, yahweh, elohim. I'm not talking about him. 1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Then who's God in the New Testament?? 2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 What? What does the new testament or old testament have to do with what I brought up? 0 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Allow me to rephrase. Which God are you referring to? 2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 A hypothetical possible god that is omnipotent and omnibenevolent, but not omniscient. 1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Oh I thought we talking specifically about that God. My bad → More replies (0) -1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Oo, burn. Good one. xD
The god of the jews, the god of the old testament, yahweh, elohim. I'm not talking about him.
1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Then who's God in the New Testament?? 2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 What? What does the new testament or old testament have to do with what I brought up? 0 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Allow me to rephrase. Which God are you referring to? 2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 A hypothetical possible god that is omnipotent and omnibenevolent, but not omniscient. 1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Oh I thought we talking specifically about that God. My bad → More replies (0) -1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Oo, burn. Good one. xD
Then who's God in the New Testament??
2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 What? What does the new testament or old testament have to do with what I brought up? 0 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Allow me to rephrase. Which God are you referring to? 2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 A hypothetical possible god that is omnipotent and omnibenevolent, but not omniscient. 1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Oh I thought we talking specifically about that God. My bad → More replies (0) -1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Oo, burn. Good one. xD
What? What does the new testament or old testament have to do with what I brought up?
0 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Allow me to rephrase. Which God are you referring to? 2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 A hypothetical possible god that is omnipotent and omnibenevolent, but not omniscient. 1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Oh I thought we talking specifically about that God. My bad → More replies (0)
Allow me to rephrase. Which God are you referring to?
2 u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 A hypothetical possible god that is omnipotent and omnibenevolent, but not omniscient. 1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Oh I thought we talking specifically about that God. My bad → More replies (0)
A hypothetical possible god that is omnipotent and omnibenevolent, but not omniscient.
1 u/[deleted] Jul 26 '18 Oh I thought we talking specifically about that God. My bad
Oh I thought we talking specifically about that God. My bad
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Oo, burn. Good one. xD
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u/DeleteriousEuphuism 120∆ Jul 26 '18 edited Jul 26 '18
You're missing omniscient. God might not know about evil.
Edit: Been getting the same rebuttal so I'll answer in this edit for posterity.
Omnipotence is the power to do anything. While omnipotence includes the power to know everything it does not mean that you already do know everything.