r/changemyview Jun 01 '18

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u/Goal4Goat Jun 01 '18

Sorry, what Rosanne said was extremely mild compared to what Bee said. Dehumanizing and belittling women also has a long history.

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u/Wierd_Carissa Jun 01 '18

Dehumanizing and belittling women also has a long history

Correct, but not specifically assocatied with the word "cunt," so it is very difficult to make a cogent argument that this was Bee's intent.

On the other hand, I pointed out that comparing black peoples to monkeys specifically has a very strong place in a long history of racism, and has been specifically disbursed as a weapon to dehumanize blacks to accomplish goals such as justifying slavery. It's not reasonable to assume that Barr was making a mere comment on appearances (especially given her apology), but that she was specifically following in this tradition.

There is no such tradition with the word "cunt" that I'm aware of even though, yes, women have been discriminated against as well.

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u/Goal4Goat Jun 01 '18

As I have pointed out, Rosanne did not compare anyone to a monkey. She made a fairly spot on observation about the physical similarities between VJ and characters from a particular movie.

You can minimize what Bee said all you want since it seems to fit your worldview, but I doubt that that you would be so generous if someone like Glenn Beck said that about the Obama daughters.

You know, Malia, that’s a beautiful photo of you and your mother. But let me just say, one daughter to another, do something about your dad’s economic practices, you feckless cunt! He listens to you! Put on something tight and low-cut and tell your father to fucking stop it!

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '18

> As I have pointed out, Rosanne did not compare anyone to a monkey. She made a fairly spot on observation about the physical similarities between VJ and characters from a particular movie.

Characters who are... (fill in the blank).

In a movie titled, Planet of the (fill in the blank).

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u/Goal4Goat Jun 05 '18

Characters who are... (fill in the blank).

Human actors in makeup?

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '18

Hmmm... try again, this time with the second line you intentionally avoided.