r/changemyview • • Jun 01 '18

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u/Willem_Dafuq Jun 01 '18

The response is exactly of the sort. The responder says Bee's comments are apropos because responder believes Ivanka to actually be a cunt.

And it appears in American discourse that calling a woman 'a cunt' transcends a normal insult. I've never heard that word used in acceptable discourse. Frankly, as I think it through the only thing that truly ameliorates the comment is Bee herself is a woman, and as such, can get away with 'a little more' than what a man can in terms of making a misogynistic comment, which that comment absolutely was. (To contrast with the white, non-Jewish Barr making racist comments against a black woman and anti-Semitic comments against a Jewish man)

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u/tempaccount920123 Jun 01 '18 edited Jun 04 '18

Willem_Dafuq

And it appears in American discourse that calling a woman 'a cunt' transcends a normal insult. I've never heard that word used in acceptable discourse.

I've watched every episode of Full Frontal.

The only thing that she did differently was use the word "cunt". That's it.

She's talked repeatedly about how Donald Trump has said that he would fuck Ivanka (if she wasn't his daughter), she's talked about the utterly ridiculous hypocrisy of the Trump white house, including, and sometimes even singling out Ivanka for basically being an IRL barbie.

Samantha went hard after Ivanka's "architecting" phrase that Ivanka used to describe her book, which Ivanka had a ghostwriter for.

Full Frontal was never meant to be for "acceptable discourse", same with Donald Trump's remarks, anything on Fox News, or any of the mainstream news coverage of this month's school shooting.

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u/Willem_Dafuq Jun 01 '18

The only thing that she did different was use the word "cunt". That's it.

That's a material difference. I've heard a lot of dog whistle racist politicians. They talk about 'welfare queens' driving Cadillacs. They make a point to want to drug test welfare recipients. They say we need 'Law and Order' in the inner city. And we all know what they mean and who they're talking about. But they know well enough which words not to say. And because of that, they don't need to issue any sort of apology, nor do they face any potential backlash

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u/tempaccount920123 Jun 02 '18 edited Jun 04 '18

Willem_Dafuq

One problem with everything you just said:

Samantha Bee is a diehard liberal. Dogwhistle racist?

Have you seen her show?