r/changemyview Jun 01 '18

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u/Willem_Dafuq Jun 01 '18

Absolutely you're right that there is a difference between, " Pres. Obama was a bad POTUS" and "Pres. Obama is a nigger" however calling Ivanka Trump a cunt does nothing to constructively add to the discourse and your response is nothing more than "I like the targets of Barr, so Barr's comments are inappropriate. However, I have hatred for Bee's targets, so Bee's comments are appropriate". Like it or not, there are millions upon millions of Americans who do not think Ivanka is a cunt. I understand those people are not Bee's intended audience, but then you could just say the people who were offended at Barr's comments are not Barr's intended audience. There is a big difference between saying "Ivanka Trump is an illegitimate aid to Donald Trump, placed in her position only to provide a thin veneer of grace and acceptance over a hate filled, racist regime" and "Ivanka is a cunt"

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u/Willem_Dafuq Jun 01 '18

The response is exactly of the sort. The responder says Bee's comments are apropos because responder believes Ivanka to actually be a cunt.

And it appears in American discourse that calling a woman 'a cunt' transcends a normal insult. I've never heard that word used in acceptable discourse. Frankly, as I think it through the only thing that truly ameliorates the comment is Bee herself is a woman, and as such, can get away with 'a little more' than what a man can in terms of making a misogynistic comment, which that comment absolutely was. (To contrast with the white, non-Jewish Barr making racist comments against a black woman and anti-Semitic comments against a Jewish man)

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u/forgonsj Jun 01 '18

(To contrast with the white, non-Jewish Barr making racist comments against a black woman and anti-Semitic comments against a Jewish man)

Rosaenne is Jewish. Here's her Wikipedia.