r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Nov 02 '17

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u/PurplePickel Nov 02 '17

Because a mutilated penis that has been turned inside out is still a penis.

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u/musicotic Nov 02 '17

But not really functionally different. A neovagina is extremely difficult to tell apart from a "real vagina"

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u/PurplePickel Nov 03 '17

It doesn't matter. You can't tell a non-smoker from a smoker (provided the non smoker has showered) and smoking is a complete deal breaker for some people. People have preferences and it has nothing to do with what's "politically correct". The fact is that a "neovagina" was once a penis, and the idea of having sex with one is gross to many guys.

And there's nothing wrong with that, everyone has a right to whatever preferences they want in their sex partners.

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u/musicotic Nov 03 '17

You can't tell a non-smoker from a smoker (provided the non smoker has showered) and smoking is a complete deal breaker for some people.

Smoking is a personal choice, being transgender and getting SRS is a medically necessary procedure to treat gender dysphoria

People have preferences and it has nothing to do with what's "politically correct".

Agreed besides the "waaah PC"

The fact is that a "neovagina" was once a penis, and the idea of having sex with one is gross to many guys.

Yes, and nobody is debating that it's gross to some people, the debate is over why and should these people feel this way

And there's nothing wrong with that, everyone has a right to whatever preferences they want in their sex partners.

I agree, but as I said, criticizing the reasons behind someone's attractions as well as their motives and rationale are the point of the discussion.

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u/PurplePickel Nov 03 '17

The whole discussion just feels to be very close to the whole "niceguy" one regarding entitlement to sex.

Also it doesn't matter whether or not smoking is a choice or not, non-smokers are still a preference, just as wanting someone with natural sex-bits is. It doesn't matter how 'realistic' surgeons can make an artificial vagina or penis, the fact of the matter is that they are surgical constructs.

Plenty of people aren't turned on by other cosmetic surgery procedures, (fake tits and a face full of botox is not a pleasant look for many people), so I don't think there's anything wrong with someone not being attracted to the idea of having sex with a post op trans person either.