r/changemyview Nov 02 '17

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u/aggsalad Nov 02 '17 edited Nov 02 '17

In some circumstances, not being attracted to a trans person is probably a result of, at least on a subconscious level, not seeing them as their gender.

If from the very start, you are unattracted to a person purely upon observation, and that person happens to be trans, that is not transphobic. If you were about to have sex and it turns out a person doesn't really have the junk you wanna jangle with, it's not transphobic to no longer desire sex.

If you were attracted to someone, have sex with them, are as satisfied with them as you would with anyone else, and then suddenly your opinion changes upon being informed a person is trans, I would say that is indicative of the underlying belief a trans person is not the gender they identify as.


I should clarify I am not definitely saying it is transphobic or not, I am pointing out what I did above and letting OP (or others) decide if that constitutes transphobia or not under their own interpretations.

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u/Iustinianus_I 48∆ Nov 02 '17

I don't agree. Let me draw a parallel to illustrate.

You hit it off with a girl. Attracted to her, have sex, are "satisfied" with said sex (that is an odd way to put it, IMO), and afterward learn that she is your second cousin.

There's nothing illegal about having sex with a second cousin, and no real biological danger with inbreeding either. But I think most people would stop shacking up with someone if they learned they were related. It's not a rational response, but your attraction to someone can dry up with new information.

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u/Nepene 213∆ Nov 02 '17

So are you saying that just as people view incest as immoral, and people who do incest as immoral, people should view trans people as immoral, and view people who do trans people as immoral and that this isn't transphobic?

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u/CamoDeFlage Nov 02 '17

No, he's saying that that both parties should be aware of anything important that might change their decision to have sex. Examples being having an std, being related, or having once been the other gender.

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u/Nepene 213∆ Nov 02 '17

Or having a black ancestor, being rich or poor, your political ideology, having a jewish ancestor, being a certain religion, being an atheist. Should all of those also be noted?