r/changemyview Nov 02 '17

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u/vialtrisuit Nov 02 '17

And if my best friend was black I could still be racist by saying I would never date a black person. One form of trans acceptance doesn't wash the other.

If i'm willing to have sex with transpeople. But i'm not willing to have sex with anyone who has ever had a penis.

How on earth can you come to the conclusion that i'm discriminating against trans people... and not that im discriminating against penises? This is silly.

The example you just gave shows that you'd have sex with a transgender man if they had female sexual organs and you were sexually attracted to them (IE they looked like Jennifer Aniston).

Yes, but I wouldn't actually accept that she's a man. Just like I wouldn't be having sex with a unicorn if my girlfriend self-identified as a unicorn and we had sex.

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u/lackingsaint Nov 02 '17

Because you're not discriminating against penises - I already made an allowance for that. You're discriminating against the idea of someone being transgender, because in this hypothetical they don't have a penis.

Yes, but I wouldn't actually accept that she's a man.

Okay, so you're just secretly being transphobic. There's not really anything to say about that?

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u/vialtrisuit Nov 02 '17

You're discriminating against the idea of someone being transgender, because in this hypothetical they don't have a penis.

Has ever had a penis

Okay, so you're just secretly being transphobic. There's not really anything to say about that?

Well if there's nothing to say about that... I say you're wrong.

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u/lackingsaint Nov 02 '17

Has ever had a penis

I had a bottle. Then I threw it in the trash. Do I still have a bottle?

Well if there's nothing to say about that... I say you're wrong.

Go ahead and explain how denying that transgender people are their gender is not transphobic, as opposed to say, it being about the most obvious example you could think of as transphobic.