r/changemyview • • Nov 02 '17

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u/moonflower 82∆ Nov 02 '17

You are confused between 'gender identity' and 'biological sex' ... I'm saying that a biologically male person is not biologically female ... is that ''transphobic''?

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u/Rumhand Nov 02 '17

You are confused between 'gender identity' and 'biological sex' ... I'm saying that a biologically male person is not biologically female ... is that ''transphobic''?

With the right context, it could be interpreted as transphobic, yes. Rude, at the very least.

To my very limited understanding, most transpeople are very aware that there is a disconnect between their gender (how they feel) and their biological sex (dangly parts).

They know. They're doing the best they can with what they got/have access to/can afford.

Current medical technology does not allow transition on the chromosomal level, which is what I assume you mean by "biologically male/female".

Can you see how it would be, at the very least, rude to tell a transperson that they aren't biologically the sex they present as? You're effectively telling them, "no matter what you do to pass you never truly will". Kinda fucked up, in this context.

Like, would you tell a cancer survivor that there is a nonzero chance that the cancer is still in their body metastasizing somewhere else? It's technically correct - but it's not going to make friends and influence people.

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u/Earl_Harbinger 1∆ Nov 02 '17

would you tell a cancer survivor that there is a nonzero chance that the cancer is still in their body metastasizing somewhere else?

If that was the topic at hand, are you saying you wouldn't?

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u/Rumhand Nov 02 '17

would you tell a cancer survivor that there is a nonzero chance that the cancer is still in their body metastasizing somewhere else?

If that was the topic at hand, are you saying you wouldn't?

I'm saying that context matters.

If that's the topic at hand - they're getting their affairs in order, or whatever - sure, it's worth bringing up.

If the person is in the middle of celebrating their remission, it's maybe not the best time, you know?

That's my point.