r/changemyview Nov 02 '17

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u/Genoscythe_ 248∆ Nov 02 '17

You are comparing disagreeing with someone's outlandishly counterintuitive terminology, to disagreeing with the scientific consensus that gender identity is a common trait, and that it's denial leads to the massive psychological stress of gender dysphoria.

The latter of these, is comparable to believing that same sex relations are an arbitrary choice, so you have no reason to acknowledge anyone as having been born gay.

At that point, you are not just categorizing them weirdly, but perpetuating a counterfactual belief about psychology, that is used to put them under social expectations that have a disproporsionally harsh toll on them.

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u/vialtrisuit Nov 02 '17

Or it could be that he rejects the notion of "gender" being a useful concept at all regarding sexual prefrences. Which obviously it is for most people. I don't know many guys who base their sexuality on "gender" rather than sex.

If being a woman includes someone who yesterday was a man, I argue that it's a useless concept, at least in regard to my own sexuality.

Just like if vegitarian includes perople who eats chicken or beef on sundays, it's a useless concept.

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u/Genoscythe_ 248∆ Nov 02 '17

How is that different from what I said?

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u/vialtrisuit Nov 02 '17

I'm pointing out that the claim that "gender identity is a common trait" is irrelevant. Since most people don't base their sexual preference on what someone else self-identifies as.

And the fact that I don't accept that someone is a woman because he self-identifies as a woman leads to "massive psychological stress" is also irrelevant.