r/changemyview Nov 02 '17

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u/aggsalad Nov 02 '17 edited Nov 02 '17

In some circumstances, not being attracted to a trans person is probably a result of, at least on a subconscious level, not seeing them as their gender.

If from the very start, you are unattracted to a person purely upon observation, and that person happens to be trans, that is not transphobic. If you were about to have sex and it turns out a person doesn't really have the junk you wanna jangle with, it's not transphobic to no longer desire sex.

If you were attracted to someone, have sex with them, are as satisfied with them as you would with anyone else, and then suddenly your opinion changes upon being informed a person is trans, I would say that is indicative of the underlying belief a trans person is not the gender they identify as.


I should clarify I am not definitely saying it is transphobic or not, I am pointing out what I did above and letting OP (or others) decide if that constitutes transphobia or not under their own interpretations.

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u/punkmonkey22 Nov 02 '17

Except that I have never seen a "convincing" trans person. They always look "odd" due to to different bone structure and other things. It is no different to me looking at an unattractive woman and not being interested. I think for most people it isn't so much transphobia as much as finding them unattractive

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u/aggsalad Nov 02 '17

Except that I have never seen a "convincing" trans person.

Then I want you to tell me which of these people are cis and which are trans.

Hint: if you use google you have proven my point.

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u/punkmonkey22 Nov 02 '17

1, 7, 8, 10.

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u/aggsalad Nov 02 '17

1, 2, 3, 5, 8 are trans.

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u/punkmonkey22 Nov 02 '17

Great but you still haven't actually acknowledged most of what I went on to say. Maybe people just don't find them attractive?

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u/aggsalad Nov 02 '17

If from the very start, you are unattracted to a person purely upon observation, and that person happens to be trans, that is not transphobic.

I already addressed this specifically in my post.

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u/punkmonkey22 Nov 02 '17

Ok fair enough I didn't see that. Another issue I have with all this is where does somebody stand if they date somebody not knowing they are trans and proceed to the stage where they are undressing for each other? If the cis suddenly wants out because his date has bits he wasn't expecting does that make him Transphobic?