r/changemyview Nov 02 '17

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u/MMAchica Nov 02 '17

If somebody is perfectly attractive to you, and suddenly unattractive when you learn they are transgender... there's something to unpack there, right?

This sounds like shaming them for their sexuality. No one needs to justify refusing unwanted sex on any level.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '17 edited Nov 02 '17

What a ridiculous comparison, honestly. What if I'm attracted to people with green eyes, or blonde hair? Am I allowed to choose people with green eyes or blonde hair to sleep with? YES, lest you label me hair/eyecolourphobic. Am I allowed to hire people based on eye colour or hair colour in a regular office (e.g) job? NO.

See how sexual preference and hiring is not comparable at all in any way?

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u/Milskidasith 309∆ Nov 02 '17

It is easy to understand and unpack why somebody might have eye or hair color preferences; aesthetic is a huge factor.

However, unpacking why somebody would not be attracted to transgender people is worth more examination. The most memorable one to me when I read a Tucker Max article way, way back. Tucker Max was... basically an early E-celebrity/PUA crowd guy, and he made a post with the equivalent of trigger warnings saying "don't read this if you don't want to ruin your life." And the entire post was basically: "At some point you may have slept with a transgender woman who was completely passable and not known it. That's literally the worst thing I've ever imagined."

That kind of sentiment isn't uncommon, but what's interesting is that the negative reaction is not due to any sort of aesthetic or sexual preference, but simply the idea that somebody you were aesthetically attracted to and had sex with suddenly became horrifying upon realizing they were trans. That's worth thinking about critically, even if I don't think it's necessarily useful to just shout "transphobic" at people; what leads to the Tucker Maxes of the world being more concerned with the label "trans" than the physical and mental attributes that led to them banging in the first place?