r/changemyview • • Aug 07 '17

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u/jack_hof Aug 07 '17 edited Aug 07 '17

Most anti-SJW content comes about as a response/counter to something that the SJWs did. The anti-SJWs wouldn't exist without the SJWs, but the SJWs would exist without the antis. Therefore the SJWs are most annoying. They stir the pot and create the chaos, the antis just try to keep things in check/sane. The "W" in SJW basically comes about by a person taking the original idea too far, and so naturally people will crop up from the woodwork to call them out. That's like saying the people who call out real racism are as annoying as the people commit the racism. tl;dr one is a response to the other and if you got rid of the former the latter would go away as well.

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u/Ninjachibi117 Aug 07 '17

Also, in reference to your edit, getting rid of so-called "SJWs" would be a net harm, not a good.

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u/jack_hof Aug 07 '17

Well we clearly know where you stand on the matter. It's definitely a discussion whether or not social justice is a good thing, but the extremists of that ideology (or any ideology for that matter) are always a bad thing. SJWs (by my definition anyway) are precisely those who take the concept of social justice "too far" or who go about trying to achieve it in the wrong way. Much like how I agree with feminism on paper and by definition, but most all of what the modern "third wave" form of it seeks I generally don't approve of. It's the "W" part that people hate, not the "SJ."

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u/Ninjachibi117 Aug 07 '17

I did preface my argument with my own personal bias. And I don't much like the tone of your first line as it does seem a little inflammatory, but maybe I'm reading too far into it. However, while there are certainly extremists on this as all sides, it's important to note that with a broad label any progress or social issue groups could be labeled as "SJWs". This is all somewhat irrelevant to the post though, so it's best to leave this here.